Broncos fan: "You need pie".

[PleaseGetReal]

50 minutes ago, Saca312 said:

I'm just not seeing how a team with a weak offense is gonna handle our Stout Defense and Strong offense. 

Rather than go point by point, I'll just address this line, which is a pretty good summary of your post.  If you're not seeing the way a weak offense team like the Broncos can "handle" a team as stout as the Panthers, you should watch the game the Broncos played on Feb 7, 2016.  They had a very poor offense and played against a heavily favored team and "handled" them pretty well.  I'd say they will use that game's strategy of being more physical on defense in this season's opener.

[LinvilleGorge]

If by "handled" you mean handed the game via turnovers and dropped passes, then I agree. Unfortunately for the Broncos, Jericho Catcher won't be out there again and Stewart won't be playing hobbled (hopefully, it IS Stew, so no guarantees there). 

[PleaseGetReal]

21 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

If by "handled" you mean handed the game via turnovers and dropped passes, then I agree. Unfortunately for the Broncos, Jericho Catcher won't be out there again and Stewart won't be playing hobbled (hopefully, it IS Stew, so no guarantees there). 

I mean "handled" by taking the game via forced turnovers and a ferocious pass rush that forces bad throws.  You guys still don't get it.  You watched the game but you didn't see.  It wasn't bad luck, or officiating.  The Panthers mistakes were caused by a defense they simply weren't prepared for and weren't physically able to match.  I suppose after the 8th, you guys will find more excuses, and nothing will change except you'll have to say that if they played ten times the Panthers would win eight.  

[usmcpanthers]

Ah Denver fans use the cliche ...we won with horrible QB play all the time. None of guys give credit to the leadership and genius mind Peyton had. His presence alone lifted everyone's play around him, it was very evident in the super bowl. The Sanchise doesnt exude that level of confidence and has the propensity to throw the timely game ending interception. If you think you guys will be just fine with a statue at QB you will be greatly mistaken. You better pray you hold every opponent to under 13 points a game this season.

 

Also the way Denver fans talk poo about Peyton is sickening, you guys are a spoiled pompous fan base. He got you to 2 superbowls in 3 years and won one, and you guys act like all Peyton ever did was show up and sell pappa johns.

[ThPantherFan]

Gelatin use to be made from hooves. 

[Jon Snow]

Thinking the Panthers learned nothing from the last matchup would be unwise for the Broncos.   The Broncos earned they're victory, the Panthers fully expect to earn theirs when the two meet again.   Sleep on us at your own peril.

[PleaseGetReal]

29 minutes ago, usmcpanthers said:

Also the way Denver fans talk poo about Peyton is sickening, you guys are a spoiled pompous fan base. He got you to 2 superbowls in 3 years and won one, and you guys act like all Peyton ever did was show up and sell pappa johns.

I have all the respect in the world for Peyton Manning.  His first three years in Denver were truly epic, and Broncos fans were lucky to have the opportunity to see him in orange and blue.  But none of that respect, gratitude, and good feeling can alter the facts of 2015 Peyton Manning.  Whether it was his age, the lingering foot injury, a new system that wasn't ideal for his skill set, the horrific play of the offensive line, or more likely, a combination of all these factors, Manning was not good in 2015.  His leadership was certainly crucial in the postseason, but let's not pretend that it was Manning who had Miller and Ware keeping Cam under constant assault for the whole game.  I can appreciate the player Manning was while being realistic about the comparatively minor role he played in ultimately securing the Championship, a Championship that was unequivolly won through the play of an historic defense.

[usmcpanthers]

3 minutes ago, PleaseGetReal said:

I have all the respect in the world for Peyton Manning.  His first three years in Denver were truly epic, and Broncos fans were lucky to have the opportunity to see him in orange and blue.  But none of that respect, gratitude, and good feeling can alter the facts of 2015 Peyton Manning.  Whether it was his age, the lingering foot injury, a new system that wasn't ideal for his skill set, the horrific play of the offensive line, or more likely, a combination of all these factors, Manning was not good in 2015.  His leadership was certainly crucial in the postseason, but let's not pretend that it was Manning who had Miller and Ware keeping Cam under constant assault for the whole game.  I can appreciate the player Manning was while being realistic about the comparatively minor role he played in ultimately securing the Championship, a Championship that was unequivolly won through the play of an historic defense.

Historic my ass, your werent the 85 bears or 2000 ravens, you won due to a couple timely turnovers. Our D held you guys to the lowest yardage ever by a superbowl winner. If it wasnt for the short fields from the fumbles you would have been around 10 points just like us.  If you think your D wasnt playing inspired to give Peyton the hollywood ending you're in denial. Without Peyton YOU dont win the superbowl, it isnt just CUZ of your defense.  Horrible playcalling by our OC played right into the strengths of your speed edge rushes. We beat ourselves unequivocally.  Sept 8th cant get here fugging fast enough.

 

Its a catch 22 game for us, if we win...you will talk poo saying we didnt win the big one. If we lose, you will talk poo saying Ha ha , you didnt win the big one. Dont fugging care, we are hungry, we get the W sept 8. 

[PleaseGetReal]

22 minutes ago, Bogart said:

Thinking the Panthers learned nothing from the last matchup would be unwise for the Broncos.   The Broncos earned they're victory, the Panthers fully expect to earn theirs when the two meet again.   Sleep on us at your own peril.

Please don't misunderstand my defense of the Broncos as underestimating the Panthers.  They are an excellent team on both sides of the ball.  While there may be questions in the secondary, I don't think anyone with sense would downplay the strength and speed in your front 7.  They have a powerful offense with a QB with all of Cam's ability and the many weapons available to him.  

While I argue against the people claiming this will be a Panther blowout, I certainly don't think the Broncos win a blowout either.  I just believe this is a winnable game, much as I thought the SB was winnable despite the overwhelming feeling to the contrary by many.  

I don't think the Broncos are the type of team to overlook anyone, let alone an extraordinary team that could be looking for payback.  I just don't think the Panthers,or their fans, should repeat the mistake of overconfidence.  This will be a slugfest for both teams and it should be some awesome football.

[usmcpanthers]

6 minutes ago, PleaseGetReal said:

Please don't misunderstand my defense of the Broncos as underestimating the Panthers.  They are an excellent team on both sides of the ball.  While there may be questions in the secondary, I don't think anyone with sense would downplay the strength and speed in your front 7.  They have a powerful offense with a QB with all of Cam's ability and the many weapons available to him.  

While I argue against the people claiming this will be a Panther blowout, I certainly don't think the Broncos win a blowout either.  I just believe this is a winnable game, much as I thought the SB was winnable despite the overwhelming feeling to the contrary by many.  

I don't think the Broncos are the type of team to overlook anyone, let alone an extraordinary team that could be looking for payback.  I just don't think the Panthers,or their fans, should repeat the mistake of overconfidence.  This will be a slugfest for both teams and it should be some awesome football.

Good post, and of course it wont be a blow out either way. It will be a tight game. You cant blame us for being overconfident after a season of 15-1 , #1 offense, #6 Defense....after hearing the talking media sport heads talk poo all year long. Then we beat the dog poo out of their two media golden child teams in seattle and arizona. Every other team fan base said we were too cocky. If you were in our shoes after that season and the mvp at your helm....you would have acted the same way, and that is the truth.

 

Im done talking ....Sept 8th

[PleaseGetReal]

31 minutes ago, usmcpanthers said:

Historic my ass, your werent the 85 bears or 2000 ravens, you won due to a couple timely turnovers. Our D held you guys to the lowest yardage ever by a superbowl winner. If it wasnt for the short fields from the fumbles you would have been around 10 points just like us.  If you think your D wasnt playing inspired to give Peyton the hollywood ending you're in denial. Without Peyton YOU dont win the superbowl, it isnt just CUZ of your defense.  Horrible playcalling by our OC played right into the strengths of your speed edge rushes. We beat ourselves unequivocally.  Sept 8th cant get here fugging fast enough.

Historic, and arguably better than the 85 Bears or 2000 Ravens.  Obviously the stats don't match, but the 85 Bears had the #2 offense in the league that year and the Ravens had a power running game that helped chew up clock and limit turnovers.  The Broncos defense was on the field more than the inept offense, often covering short fields due to turnovers.  No defense in history has had to carry so much weight, and you supply more evidence in the Broncos offensive stats in the SB. Lowest ever by a Super Bowl winner. It was like that most of the season.  Those "timely" turnovers weren't lucky, it was what they had been doing all season to make up for what was lacking on offense.  I do agree your OC made some really questionable decisions, and I guess we'll find out if he learned when we see if he leaves the edge rushers singled again, or if he at least forces the pressure to come from somewhere else.  Either way, don't doubt that Cam will be under pressure.  It should come down to who can grit their teeth and gut it out to the end.  I know the Broncos can win that type of game, they did it all last season.  We'll find out if the Panthers have gotten tougher.  We agree at least on Sep 8 not getting here fast enough.

[gorillamilitia13]

Cam losing the SB will make him that much better 

[Saca312]

1 hour ago, PleaseGetReal said:

Historic, and arguably better than the 85 Bears or 2000 Ravens.  Obviously the stats don't match, but the 85 Bears had the #2 offense in the league that year and the Ravens had a power running game that helped chew up clock and limit turnovers.  The Broncos defense was on the field more than the inept offense, often covering short fields due to turnovers.  No defense in history has had to carry so much weight, and you supply more evidence in the Broncos offensive stats in the SB. Lowest ever by a Super Bowl winner. It was like that most of the season.  Those "timely" turnovers weren't lucky, it was what they had been doing all season to make up for what was lacking on offense.  I do agree your OC made some really questionable decisions, and I guess we'll find out if he learned when we see if he leaves the edge rushers singled again, or if he at least forces the pressure to come from somewhere else.  Either way, don't doubt that Cam will be under pressure.  It should come down to who can grit their teeth and gut it out to the end.  I know the Broncos can win that type of game, they did it all last season.  We'll find out if the Panthers have gotten tougher.  We agree at least on Sep 8 not getting here fast enough.

You guys act like all you have to do is just stick Von Miller in and instant win. Like the Panthers have no chance because Von Miller is too much. It's hilarious, because understandably our fanbase before the Superbowl expected the opposite. But you know, delusions come from both sides of each fan bases. After all, the Broncos now have the media loving them, while the Panthers are only getting more publicity because of the hate we've always been getting.

 

Understand this. Our #1 offense from last year is not the same. We have Kelvin Benjamin coming back, a healthy J-Stew, and a revamped offense with new play-calling, faster tempo, and no huddle style. We'll be firing up all cylinders. Our D-Line has been drastically improved with the addition of solid depth, and our LB's, man, TD, Luke, and Shaq could be in the Top 5. Our cornerbacks doesn't consist of JNo anymore, but we don't have McClain or Finnegan anymore starting, and our rookies have made leaps in progress. Safeties have been rounded out, no more slow Harper, and our DE's, with a motivated Johnson and Ealy, will chew up. 

 

We won't be the same rugged team as last year. You guys have lost some pieces, don't say your losses on Defense isn't that substantial. I even say losing Norman for us is big, but not as bad as what you guys have lost. Our Offense and Defense has continuity, while the Broncos have reached that Superbowl slump so many predecessors have gone through. I expect a tough game, considering the environment of play, but I doubt we'd take another loss. 

 

Just get ready, and get real yourself. You all thinking we'd be cake will cost. Don't blame me if Von Miller doesn't become much of a factor this go around. I believe the Panthers will be able to prevent that. Good luck.

[CPantherKing]

1 hour ago, PleaseGetReal said:

I mean "handled" by taking the game via forced turnovers and a ferocious pass rush that forces bad throws.  You guys still don't get it.  You watched the game but you didn't see.  It wasn't bad luck, or officiating.  The Panthers mistakes were caused by a defense they simply weren't prepared for and weren't physically able to match.  I suppose after the 8th, you guys will find more excuses, and nothing will change except you'll have to say that if they played ten times the Panthers would win eight.  

You call them forced fumbles by Von Miller. I call it an illegal hit to the head of the QB and an illegal batted ball toward the opponents end zone. Be glad Miller did not get called for those blatant penalties. If Peyton Manning's head jostled from a hit to the side or the Panthers batted a ball down the field 10 yards that Manning was about to recover, then the officials would have flagged the Panthers in a second.