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Cam is Not a Top Tier QB...

Cookie Lyon

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Well, at least according to 42 league insiders, 10 general managers, 5 head coaches, 7 offensive coordinators, 5 defensive coordinators, 8 personnel evaluators and 7 other position coaches and executives. 

Cam was placed in Tier 2. Which is complete BS. HE IS THE REIGNING MVP!

Here are the Tiers that were used to evaluate the QB's:

Tier 1: Can carry his team each week. Team wins because of him. 
Tier 2: Can carry team sometimes but not as consistently. 
Tier 3: Legit starter but needs heavy run game/defense to win. 
Tier 4: Might not want this guy starting all 16 games. 
Tier 5: Do not think this guy should be starting.

 

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Eighteen of 42 voters placed Newton in the top tier. Some of the others said they would follow suit if Newton played at a high level over the course of a full season. Newton ranked 24th in Total QBR and had a 53.7 completion rate through Carolina's first eight games last season, but thanks to a stellar Carolina defense, the turnovers Newton committed rarely cost the Panthers. Carolina allowed 32 points off 19 turnovers, good for a league-low 1.7 points allowed per turnover. That was a huge reason Carolina got off to a 14-0 start.

None of the 42 insiders brought up the way Newton bailed from the postgame interview session after Carolina's Super Bowl defeat. The vision of that widely panned incident did come to mind when some voters described Newton as a front-runner.

 

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"It is a resounding 1 for me," said a defensive coordinator who has faced Newton multiple times. "Guess who is the cornerstone of their running game? It's Cam Newton. Guess who is the cornerstone of their passing game? It's Cam Newton. Who are his wide receivers? He has [tight end] Greg Olsen. How about anybody else? He goes out there and gets it done consistently. He has a big, powerful arm. He is not a great passer, but he is a great thrower. He can carry your football team."

"He has rare energy when things are going good," a GM said. "It is as good as it gets, and he can lead when he is out in front. When things aren't going well, that is when he makes mistakes. He has bad energy for the team, he sucks the life out of it. He is a manic quarterback. But as long as his defense performs, as long as big plays are made that bail him out, that will always re-energize him."

 

http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/2016-nfl-qb-tier-rankings/story?id=41230629#Tier 2

 

 

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There are 20 teams that don't make the playoffs every year.  Then there are teams that haven't made the playoffs in over a decade.  I think it's safe to say some of those perennial losers had their head coaches and GM's polled on this survey.  I value their input on what's elite about as much as I value Tolbert's opinion on portion control at dinner.  

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I guess Cam needs to have another season like last year and win the SB to get his full props from everybody. I still remember last year they was fronting on him being a possible MVP. I forgot who they was claiming was over him or no I think they said Cam HAVE to stay undefeated to be the MVP and he just continued to explode and had everybody mouth completely closed.

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Elitism from the big media markets fuels this. No one in New York, Boston, Philadelphia, and other major markets wants to hear their QB sucks and these small market team QBs are better. Cam challenges their belief system, and they don't like it

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