Fox's Defense, no matter who the DC is?

[Dpantherman]

Could it be that Turdo wasn't so bad last year? idk, but I do know that the defense that gave up 30+ a game half of last season is picking up where it left off. The only difference is the zone defense. What I don't get is how we are 3rd in the league in pass yards allowed per game, but 28th against the run. Looks just like the Colts Defense in previous years, you know the team that usually won despite their Defense instead of because of it--Ron Meeks. So which is it?

[Guild]

Lack of execution and not taking certain risks makes us give up to many 3rd downs so we don't get possession which is the key to a Panthers win.

[Dpantherman]

and that really kills me. We pressure, and stop on first and second down. and cant even stop them on the 3rd. and we cannot, and will not cover TEs. NEVER have we been able to do so.

[Jangler]

At least Indy had Payton to bail out the defense...

[Dpantherman]

thats still not good enough. if you cant stop anyone, u set your sef up for failure.

[rayzor]

At least Indy had Payton to bail out the defense...

sean payton always helps.

[Dpantherman]

what did NO do? bring in a DC with a history of success, the do enough. not great, but the make stops and get TOs.

[Dpantherman]

it seems like every week if one side of the ball does good, the other side finds a way to screw up. and Special TEams sucks as well

[Fiz]

remember when people were mad at me because i said nothing would be different lol

[Guild]

Yes I do Fiz... right now you are mostly right in that while most things have seemingly stayed the same other things have regressed. I think things can change though as the season moves on and the scheme gets more complex.

[Dpantherman]

John Fox will be in Clevland or Buffalo next year.

[Snake]

Our De fence is different this year then last. If you cant see that then your just an avg fan that knows nothing about football. We played Cover 2 the majority of the game and it relies on getting pressure with the Front 4. The differences is that we played bump and run and Tampa 2 at some points. Still if our guys dont get to the QB that allows the WRs and TEs to sit in the soft spots in the zone. Thats exactly what happened and thats why we lost. Trgo was more a fav of zone blitzs that rush 4 and while they are effective if you dont time them right you get burnt. Really all it falls down to is we have a crappy Dline....... Peppers cant even beat one man now and Lewis and Brayton do not scare anyone. Brown is still young and lacks power to get around Defenders and Johnson while strong still cant manage to beat his man. Take it how you want but thats the Problem. Has been for 3 years now.

[Cyclonus]

Our De fence is different this year then last. If you cant see that then your just an avg fan that knows nothing about football. We played Cover 2 the majority of the game and it relies on getting pressure with the Front 4. The differences is that we played bump and run and Tampa 2 at some points. Still if our guys dont get to the QB that allows the WRs and TEs to sit in the soft spots in the zone. Thats exactly what happened and thats why we lost. Trgo was more a fav of zone blitzs that rush 4 and while they are effective if you dont time them right you get burnt. Really all it falls down to is we have a crappy Dline....... Peppers cant even beat one man now and Lewis and Brayton do not scare anyone. Brown is still young and lacks power to get around Defenders and Johnson while strong still cant manage to beat his man. Take it how you want but thats the Problem. Has been for 3 years now.

The system is different. But the result is the same.

[rayzor]

remember when people were mad at me because i said nothing would be different lol

the players bought into it, too.

if things don't turn around this year hopefully the next coach will bring in a really aggressive D.