Anyone who blames Jake Delhomme for this loss...

[monstercat]

Most of us aren't paid millions of dollars to make those snap decisions and put the ball where it needs to be through whatever physical trauma. Jake is.

WTF does money have to do with it? What I'm saying, is that you can go and watch any NFL game and find open WR's that the QB didn't see, if you're motivated to look for it, that is. This is not something specific to Delhomme. There, that should clear that part up for the slow people.

Besides that, dumb ass fans in the stands have no clue what the order of the progression is for the QB or how good his line of sight is to the WR that you see open. He may be trying to look over a 6' 6" D-lineman, while simultaneously having to move his feet, and completely lose sight of the WR for a second, which is a long time when you're the one standing in the pocket.

[Carl Spackler]

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I don't use passing yards as an indicator so much as long completions on 3rd and 3 in the fourth quarter, conversion on 3rd and 16, etc.

[neverlosethefeeling]

Nobody is blaming this loss on Delhomme. Ive only seen 2 dumbass threads by dumbass posters that did. Other than that, everyone else is saying he played decent or average, but not great. Like I've said before if the Falcons defenders didnt drop 2 easy INTs that where thrown right at them, it wouldve been yet another terrible game for Delhomme.

And IF Steve or Dewayne made either of those catches in the 4th quarter, it would have been a great game for Jake.

And IF DeAngelo didn't fumble the ball, we may not have had to try and win it with seconds left on the clock.

And IF our defense had played better, we may have had the ball more than 3 minutes in the 3rd Quarter.

And IF special teams had played better, we may not have had a blocked punt, and given our defense more to work with.

See? You can't focus on what didn't happen because what didn't happen doesn't matter. You can recognize the things that did happen, and focus on how to get them better, but you can't dwell on the things that didn't happen, and wonder IF.

[KillerKat]

And IF Steve or Dewayne made either of those catches in the 4th quarter, it would have been a great game for Jake.

And IF DeAngelo didn't fumble the ball, we may not have had to try and win it with seconds left on the clock.

And IF our defense had played better, we may have had the ball more than 3 minutes in the 3rd Quarter.

And IF special teams had played better, we may not have had a blocked punt, and given our defense more to work with.

See? You can't focus on what didn't happen because what didn't happen doesn't matter. You can recognize the things that did happen, and focus on how to get them better, but you can't dwell on the things that didn't happen, and wonder IF.

Well he did throw right to those 2 defenders. Thats not an "if" statement, thats reality. He threw right to them. So I guess he can focus on that part and get better. And the reason why he'd wanna get better is because had they been picked, it would've been his THIRD terrible game in a row. And that part is fact.

[monstercat]

Your hostility doesn't change the fact that Delhomme's decision-making remains questionable, perhaps with some upside. Throwing excuses at his feet won't make him or the team better. Not that 6'6" linemen aren't a good excuse, but Jake's not the only QB in the NFL that has to throw over them.

But, unless you can actually see the field through his eyes, then how can you even judge how good or bad his decision making is in the first place? That's the whole point.

Anyway, blaming Jake for this particular game is beyond moronic, but it's happening in thread after thread. For crying out loud, the Panthers had over 400yds of offense today. If the defense gets a couple of 3 and outs, it's a completely different ballgame, and as it was, we only lost by 8 points.

[PhillyB]

he really didn't play well the entire game. I had seats in the front row of the upper deck in the endzone, so I got to watch it from the angle the coaches examine tape.

Jake was badly missing reads consistently throughout the game. Three were terribly egregious.

On the first pass he forced in to triple coverage to smith, Moose was wide open right behind him for a TD.

On a force to Dante, Steve Smith was streaking wide open down the sideline.

There was one more I remember making a note about that he checked down to for some reason.

Jake's also terrible at pre-snap reads of the defense, but that's nothing new.

also now he's adding mind numbingly bad plays to his repertoire. he should have been benched after that underhand flip rubbish.

so yeah at the end of the day he kinda has okay numbers but that has far more to do with the falcons defense than it does with jake. thanks for reading my post hope it was informative.

in retrospect, you're more entertaining when you're an obnoxious bitch... this "nice fiz" thing is throwin me off :wink:

[neverlosethefeeling]

Jake is asked to air it out when defenses start to stack the box. He hasn't done a good job these past few games.

Had we been playing a decent or above average defense today, it would've been a repeat or ARZ or PHI.

The ARZ defense was a freaking joke going into the playoffs. Nobody will debate that. The Falcons defense ain't no chumps either. Matter of fact, they played better than our defense today.

[tarheelpride]

the loss is not Jake's fault. He shouldn't get blamed. He did what he could. HOWEVER, I do blame the loss on these factors:

1) Coaching - the most obvious. Fox was outcoached and Meeks' defensive calls left holes for Atlanta to exploit, save for Richard Marshall's INT. We were gashed all afternoon and did not generate pressure. When we did, Matt Ryan calmly beat it with a good throw (I only remember one blitz, with horrible coverage behind it). We didn't get to him all afternoon. The coaching staff did not put the players into position to make plays.

2) Defensive Execution - I put this on the players. Missed tackles. Bad coverage. Bad angles to the ball. Did we even bring down Turner on the first hit? How many tackles did we miss?

3) 4th and Inches - I bring this out because we clearly know it's going to be a sneak. what do we do? BASE DEFENSE WITH 4 LINEMAN!!! Atlanta did get a good push, but when you know they're going to QB sneak it, why not put 5 or 6 lineman out there? If Kemo was out there, I'd understand going with 4 lineman, since he takes up 2 blockers due to sheer size. I would stack the line with lineman. I still think he could have gotten the first, but at least make it more difficult for him to do so.

4) DeAngelo's fumble - If I remember correctly, we had momentum and a nice drive going up until that point. That fumble ended any momentum we had for the moment and gave Atlanta good field position to work with. Had DeAngelo held on, the drive could have netted us a much-needed touchdown. We were able to somewhat recover, but a turnover is a turnover.

5) Clock Management - 2nd most obvious. We didn't play with a sense of urgency at the end of the first half and in the second half of the 4th quarter. We were moving as if we had a lead or was content with the situation. Do you put it on the players, who wasn't hustling, or the coaching staff, who did not facilitate the process???

6) 4th down - Go for it or kick the field goal? We could go on and on all day, break down every possible scenario, and analyze Jake's throw. It was a bad decision because of the result, an INT. Had we scored a TD on that play, or even gotten a 1st down, it would've been a good decision. Even a field goal was desirable up to that point since we still needed a defensive stop either way if we were to still have a chance.

Those 6 things, Coaching, Defensive Execution, 2 4th and Inches plays, DeAngelo's fumble, clock management, and 4th down all lead to the loss. However, if Dwayne Jarrett made that catch with no time remaining, we would be singing a different tune. So maybe we all should blame him for the loss

[TrueBlackandBlue]

funny thing is Jake fans will use just the sheer volume of passing yards as reason enough to say "he's still got it".

I read the OP over and over but I couldnt find where he mentioned that. Could you point it out?

[Al Morgan]

The loss wasn't Jake's fault, and I've seen very few user saying that. Still, Good QBs ( not great, just GOOD ) win games ( all Jake's 4th comeback? ). Obviously, he isn't. Maybe it was, but as you all know, NFL is all about "what have you done for me lately".

[Munkey]

What difference does your bitching about it make, honestly? They've got to forget about it and prep for Dallas.

You must like quoting and not reading.

If you read it, you'd see I was talking about Delhomme's inability to throw ahead of the route so it wont be picked off. God you're hopeless.

[Zod]

Jake was a mediocre QB yesterday, which for him, is an up day.

[jramsey4]

Jake was a mediocre QB yesterday, which for him, is an up day.

I think he played better then mediocre. I saw some very good reads he made. He overthrew a couple of guys but other then that I think he did very well. He's finally going though his progressions and checking it down. If he continues to do that and not force it to Smith will be all right. He just needs to calm down when the game starts getting away.

[Zod]

I think he played better then mediocre. I saw some very good reads he made. He overthrew a couple of guys but other then that I think he did very well. He's finally going though his progressions and checking it down. If he continues to do that and not force it to Smith will be all right. He just needs to calm down when the game starts getting away.

Shall I replay the desperate underhand the ball away to avoid the sack nevermind the linebacker standing right there waiting for it?