KD to the Warriors

[rico6]

Death line-ups for the Warriors: Curry-Clay-Iggy-Draymond-KD

 

No lineup in the league can combat this lol. Anticipating a loss each and every time they visit this year.

[Manos]

3 minutes ago, rico6 said:

Death line-ups for the Warriors: Curry-Clay-Iggy-Draymond-KD

 

No lineup in the league can combat this lol. Anticipating a loss each and every time they visit this year.

They will get destroyed down low if they do that by any competent big man or team who can drive it effectively because they have negative rim protection. Granted they will score a lot but probably not as much as you think. KD is going to have to either become a glorified spot up shooter or that team is going to have to really change the way it runs its offense to accommodate him, neither scenario is going to be a smooth transition. By the playoffs it will probably be figured out but there will be growing pains.

[rico6]

5 minutes ago, Manos said:

They will get destroyed down low if they do that by any competent big man or team who can drive it effectively because they have negative rim protection. Granted they will score a lot but probably not as much as you think. KD is going to have to either become a glorified spot up shooter or that team is going to have to really change the way it runs its offense to accommodate him, neither scenario is going to be a smooth transition. By the playoffs it will probably be figured out but there will be growing pains.

Idk, Durant adds ALOT of the 'length' they defensively and offensively lacked just this past game 7 when the likes of Richard Jefferson was literally driving and dunking on them with near ease. Durant was outright neutralizing Curry on some defensive possessions in the playoffs. Not many 6'10 guys in the WORLD can dream off that.

Their perimeter defense I believe has greatly improved with Durant.

[Manos]

2 minutes ago, rico6 said:

Idk, Durant adds ALOT of the 'length' they defensively and offensively lacked just this past game 7 when the likes of Richard Jefferson was literally driving and dunking on them with near ease. Durant was outright neutralizing Curry on some defensive possessions in the playoffs. Not many 6'10 guys in the WORLD can dream off that.

Their perimeter defense I believe has greatly improved with Durant.

But Durant will have to defend the 4 or 5 in that lineup so his perimeter defense won't matter. And while Durant is a solid rebounder he isn't built to bang down low with actually bigs for an entire season. 

Now don't get me wrong Durant is a great player and this is definitely a wow move but he isn't a magical cure all that fixes all the Warriors woes. Curry is still a bad defender who settles for too many jump shots most of which are terrible shots that just look good because he is so skilled he doesn't play with great fundamentals. Klay is a good all around player but that is it, he is just good. Draymond has a bad temper that gets him into trouble and his emotions make him very streaky. Iggy is old and prone to breaking down,  and they have no real big man. Now given all that they should still win 60+ get games and make the WCF but they aren't a lock to win anything.

[Matthias]

11 hours ago, setzer2030 said:

Sorry guys, but you can let the Steph to Charlotte dream go now.

http://www.theplayerstribune.com/kevin-durant-nba-free-agency-announcement/

On the contrary, I think this increases our chances or at the very least increase the chance of Steph leaving Golden State.  They can't pay Steph, Klay, Draymond, and KD the money they want.  Someone is leaving soon, and Steph's contract is up after this season.  The question here is, does Steph want to come to this dumpster fire?

[The Huddler]

17 minutes ago, Matthias said:

On the contrary, I think this increases our chances or at the very least increase the chance of Steph leaving Golden State.  They can't pay Steph, Klay, Draymond, and KD the money they want.  Someone is leaving soon, and Steph's contract is up after this season.

Maybe steph wont feel as guilty leaving behind 2 chamionships and a former league MVP. 

 

plus if curry gets any kind of heat i could see him sayin fug you

[Cookie Lyon]

4 hours ago, Montsta said:

@Cookie Lyon keep doing you boo!

I ain't even mad at you. Lebron did this same exact thing to get his first two titles. So maybe KD will win two with us and then go back home in four years to DC and finally win won for the Wizards. 

And they can have a parade using a rented flatbed truck from Home Depot. 

Looking forward to it!

LOL!

This is TOTALLY different from when LeBron left Cleveland. He was surrounded by bums during his first stint in Cleveland. He also didn't join a team that won 73 games and knocked him out of the playoffs.

 GO CAVS!!! 

[Montsta]

1 hour ago, Cookie Lyon said:

LOL!

This is TOTALLY different from when LeBron left Cleveland. He was surrounded by bums during his first stint in Cleveland. He also didn't join a team that won 73 games and knocked him out of the playoffs.

 GO CAVS!!! 

Lebron James couldn't win a championship by himself in Cleveland, so he left a team that had gone to The Finals to play with two superstars in Miami, on a team that was very good before he got there, even winning a championship before his arrival.

Kevin Durant couldn't win a championship by himself in OKC, so he left a team that had just gone to the Western Conference Finals to play with two superstars in Oakland, on a team that was very good before he got there, even winning a championship before his arrival. 

I understand you really like Lebron, but even with the thickest King goggles available you have to realize that it is the EXACT SAME THING. 

All Kevin Durant needed was some bullshit televised special to showcase his arrogance and a WWE style introduction party into Oakland and it would look like we went back in time. 

[Manos]

15 minutes ago, Montsta said:

Lebron James couldn't win a championship by himself in Cleveland, so he left a team that had gone to The Finals to play with two superstars in Miami, on a team that was very good before he got there, even winning a championship before his arrival.

Kevin Durant couldn't win a championship by himself in OKC, so he left a team that had just gone to the Western Conference Finals to play with two superstars in Oakland, on a team that was very good before he got there, even winning a championship before his arrival. 

I understand you really like Lebron, but even with the thickest King goggles available you have to realize that it is the EXACT SAME THING. 

All Kevin Durant needed was some bullshit televised special to showcase his arrogance and a WWE style introduction party into Oakland and it would look like we went back in time. 

Saying KD was by himself is such a massive insult to Westbrook. He was arguably the best player on that team and the second best player in the world. LeBron was leaving a team with nothing, a team he tried to get other stars to come play for but they wouldn't so he went elsewhere. KD is leaving the third most talented team in the entire NBA to join the most talented team because he was too much of a bitch to beat them.

[Montsta]

35 minutes ago, Manos said:

Saying KD was by himself is such a massive insult to Westbrook. He was arguably the best player on that team and the second best player in the world. LeBron was leaving a team with nothing, a team he tried to get other stars to come play for but they wouldn't so he went elsewhere. KD is leaving the third most talented team in the entire NBA to join the most talented team because he was too much of a bitch to beat them.

I don't mean it as he was by himself, because obviously he had other players with him. When was the last team to win a championship that didn't have multiple great players on the team?

I meant it as carrying the load, which KD did despite Westbrook, and Lebron did despite Wade or Kyrie, and Curry did despite Klay. 

I don't why understand why a players decision to leave a team is ok if the team sucks, but not ok if the team is pretty good? 

Where is the line drawn and who gets to decide?

Lebron left a Cavs team in his prime that made it to the playoffs every year. Would you say that's a good team? Maybe it was just because of Lebron, but the fact remains, they were a playoff team, not a championship team  

KD left a Thunder team in his prime that made the playoffs every year. Would you say that's a good team? Maybe it was just KD, but the fact remains, they were a playoff team, not a championship team.

Maybe KD had a feeling Westbrook would bolt and knew he'd essentially be stuck with a team like Lebron had in Cleveland by himself. We don't know. My point remains the same that this is exactly what Lebron did. 

You get guys like Stephen A Smith talking poo which is ironic coming from an ESPN guy. Why doesn't Stephen A work for Fox Sports or Bleacher Report? Because ESPN is the best and he wants to work for the best at his job.

[Manos]

47 minutes ago, Montsta said:

I don't mean it as he was by himself, because obviously he had other players with him. When was the last team to win a championship that didn't have multiple great players on the team?

I meant it as carrying the load, which KD did despite Westbrook, and Lebron did despite Wade or Kyrie, and Curry did despite Klay. 

I don't why understand why a players decision to leave a team is ok if the team sucks, but not ok if the team is pretty good? 

Where is the line drawn and who gets to decide?

Lebron left a Cavs team in his prime that made it to the playoffs every year. Would you say that's a good team? Maybe it was just because of Lebron, but the fact remains, they were a playoff team, not a championship team  

KD left a Thunder team in his prime that made the playoffs every year. Would you say that's a good team? Maybe it was just KD, but the fact remains, they were a playoff team, not a championship team.

Maybe KD had a feeling Westbrook would bolt and knew he'd essentially be stuck with a team like Lebron had in Cleveland by himself. We don't know. My point remains the same that this is exactly what Lebron did. 

You get guys like Stephen A Smith talking poo which is ironic coming from an ESPN guy. Why doesn't Stephen A work for Fox Sports or Bleacher Report? Because ESPN is the best and he wants to work for the best at his job.

The difference is KD left a team that wasn't just good but borderline great and LeBron left a team full of garbage.

I don't think anyone sane would pick the Thunder even without KD lower than the 6th best team in the entire NBA right now, whereas when LeBron left Cleveland they instantly became the worse team in the league.

Also LeBron went to a team that had missed the playoffs the year before and while he joined with Wade and Bosh they still built something new.

KD isn't building anything, he is hoping on a bandwagon. He is joining a team that already won a ring and just broke the NBA wins record, a team he just failed to beat after being up 3-1 and that is the difference. It just looks weak.

Him leaving the Thunder is not the real problem it's him joining the Warriors. If he had gone to San Antonio or the Clippers or basically any team besides the Warriors or Cavs he wouldn't be getting killed right now but as is he looks like someone who doesn't believe they are good enough to do it alone and he needs to cost off someone else's coattails.

He is pulling a move 35+ year old NBA has-beens pull to chase a ring at the end of their careers when he is still in his prime. If you can't see why that's a problem then I don't know what to say.

And if he was really worried about Westbrook bolting he could have signed the same deal he just signed with the Warriors with the Thunder and made one last go at it to see if he was truly good enough.

Finally there is no guarantee that he is even going to succeed with the dubs. He doesn't fit their style of offense and he doesn't fix any of the issues the team has. Plus it's entirely possible they have to blow the team or part of it up next year when they have to pay Curry and KD ridiculous raises because the cap is going up again. They are going to have basically no bench or Curry could just leave. Especially if they fail to win a ring which there are going to have insane pressure to do.

If I remember correctly you are a die-hard Warriors fan so I understand why you would be excited about this but it should be obvious why most "neutral" fans aren't.

[Zaximus]

KD basically killed that team.  Westbook is gone.  They will be like the Hornets after that, stuck in the back and early outs in the playoffs.  Maybe the NBA hands them #1 picks a bunch of years like the Cavs got though.  Either or, I just feel for that city.   They were behind Durrant from the beginning.   Could you imagine this happening to the Hornets?  Small market team loses their drafted superstar?  It sucks.    I lost a lot of respect for him but if he truely doesn't have enough confidence in himself to win it without an All-Star team then I guess I get it.  He's just not THE guy.   There really isn't THE guy in the NBA anymore, and that's how it is.  Durrant had another top 5 player in Westbook and that still wasn't good enough.   I feel like the NBA needs to tighten up stuff, but with the salary cap rising it's like they are OK making profits NOW and don't care about long term.  The popularity is just dying off and this is a huge reason for it.   

Unless you're one of those 4-5 teams, you basically feel like you're immediately playing in the losers bracket each season.  Fun.

[Manos]

I don't get everyone saying KD killed the Thunder, are they worse now without him that with him? Sure but they aren't garbage. Westbrook is a top 4 player in the world, Oladipo is a young rising 2, and Kanter and Adams may just be the best bigman combo currently in the league. If Westbrook is anything like the kind of player I think he is this season is going to be special as he tries to prove once and for all he was the true star on that team. It may blow up in his face or he might just surprise a lot of people since everyone is writing him off. Either way I think this year's Thunder will be fine, now if Westbrook leaves next year then you can panic but until then they still have an outside shot. 

[djp14]

1 hour ago, Zaximus said:

Either or, I just feel for that city.   They were behind Durrant from the beginning. 

I can't feel too bad for that city. They took Seattle's team, and have been a playoff contender ever since (other than that 1st season in OKC). They've never had to cheer a bad team, or go through a rebuild. Welcome to the NBA. 

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Could you imagine this happening to the Hornets?  Small market team loses their drafted superstar?  It sucks. 

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