Two Panthers in Top 10 of Top 100 Players

[JawnyBlaze]

Cam should be #1 but he isn't. The previews have been saying "former league MVP will be #1". Cam is the current MVP. 

[panthers55]

Hurney's biggest issues were drafting for need and trading away future picks for immediate payoff. The money issues were really due to Richardson's bonehead moves in 2010 which made us so awful we had to pay a premium to get players to play here. We spent a ton to keep players to convince fans we weren't cheap and wanted to  It was Hurney's. That and a flat cap which he and other GMs thought would be going up with the new TV contract deal. Yeah the cap went up but not before Hurney was gone and his legacy was a salary cap nightmare. 

[CPantherKing]

4 hours ago, CRA said:

what are you going off of for the number count?  If the GM drafted and traded for a player during his tenure?  Hurney has what 8 of those?  (7 drafted)

you got me, eyeballing the list I can't find a GM I can tie to more than that.

 

I thought Mike Brown drafted 8 with the Bengals. Turns out he traded for one of them. So, Mike Brown and Marty Hurney are tied for the #1 spot. Since the longest tenured player that could have made this list is from the 1996 draft, I will base all GMs for the top 100 on a max of 20 seasons due to some GMs drafting more than 2 decades. Hurney's players are over a span of 11 seasons. Brown's players are over a span of 20 seasons. I will give tiebreakers to GMs with less time to draft/trade. So, Marty Hurney is #1 in 2016.

1. Marty Hurney (8) [11 seasons] - Carolina Panthers

2. Mike Brown (8) [20 seasons] - Cincinnati Bengals

3. Pete Carroll/John Schneider (5) [6 seasons] - Seattle Seahawks

4. Kevin Colbert (5) [16 seasons] - Pittsburgh Steelers

5. Bill Belichick (5) [20 seasons] - New England Patriots

6. David Caldwell (4) [3 seasons] - Jacksonville Jaguars

7. Mark Dominik (4) [5 seasons] - Tampa Bay Buccaneers

8. Bruce Allen (4) [10 seasons] - Washington Redskins

9. 8 GMs tied (3): Mickey Loomis, Ted Thompson, Jerry Jones, Andy Reid, John Dorsey, Carl Peterson, Brian Xanders, and Rod Graves.

 

[csx]

I'm not going to give Hurney much credit for Newton. That didn't take masterful decision making.

[The NFL Shield At Midfield]

2 hours ago, panthers55 said:

Hurney's biggest issues were drafting for need and trading away future picks for immediate payoff. The money issues were really due to Richardson's bonehead moves in 2010 which made us so awful we had to pay a premium to get players to play here. We spent a ton to keep players to convince fans we weren't cheap and wanted to  It was Hurney's. That and a flat cap which he and other GMs thought would be going up with the new TV contract deal. Yeah the cap went up but not before Hurney was gone and his legacy was a salary cap nightmare. 

his drafts from 2009-2012 are actually kind of funny to look at in retrospect

out of 32 picks there were two mega stars (luke and cam) two all pros (hardy and norman) and almost nothing else.  lafell and munnerlyn were serviceable and the rest was basically laughably bad.  in conjunction with all the huge extensions and year-to-year restructures to keep our heads above water it created this problem where we were cap strapped but also talent starved at the same time.

[vorbis]

16 minutes ago, csx said:

I'm not going to give Hurney much credit for Newton. That didn't take masterful decision making.

it did take balls, though. Newton wasn't the consensus top pick by any measure.

[The NFL Shield At Midfield]

14 minutes ago, csx said:

I'm not going to give Hurney much credit for Newton. That didn't take masterful decision making.

looking back i think a lot of it was the media trying to stir poo up .  he wouldn't have made it out of the top five, if not the top three.  even though he was superficially "raw" hardly anybody would get cute if they had a chance to grab talent like that.

[The NFL Shield At Midfield]

oh and

stolen from @BAMFpanther

[panthers55]

1 hour ago, The NFL Shield At Midfield said:

his drafts from 2009-2012 are actually kind of funny to look at in retrospect

out of 32 picks there were two mega stars (luke and cam) two all pros (hardy and norman) and almost nothing else.  lafell and munnerlyn were serviceable and the rest was basically laughably bad.  in conjunction with all the huge extensions and year-to-year restructures to keep our heads above water it created this problem where we were cap strapped but also talent starved at the same time.

Then when you add in the whole John Fox mishandling by making him a lame duck coach and give him rookies and young guys when Fox preferred vets. But that was Richardson too at least approving big decisions.

[Mojo]

I personally think Antonio Brown should be top 3.  Guy is incredible.

[pantherclaw]

This is not a top 100 thread. 

[Cookie Lyon]

Since they LOVE to paint Cam in a negative light when they do these Top 100 players lists, I wouldn't be surprised if they had that stupid Tennessee mom do the segment about Cam. Hopefully, those bitches won't be petty this time around.

[Darknight]

10 hours ago, csx said:

I'm not going to give Hurney much credit for Newton. That didn't take masterful decision making.

bullshit. I remember 2011 on the Huddle pretty well and all the hype surrounding Newton. A lot of people didn't feel he was worthy of being a number 1 pick. Rivera/Hurney did their due diligence with Newton.

[Hoenheim]

17 hours ago, Bronn said:

I HIGHLY doubt they will give Newton #1 but he does deserve it... No question...

Can you imagine if Cam and Luke were 1 and 2???!?!?!?

There's no way theyre going to put Luke above JJ Watt