Former NFL RB, Zurlon Tipton, accidentally kills himself

[bryn10]

13 hours ago, ecu88 said:

In b4 GUN CONTROL/

Haha, If only we had more restrictions on everyone in our society we may have been able to keep this one man from recklessly handling his firearms and accidentally killing himself.  Scary people actually think this way. 

[csx]

13 minutes ago, bryn10 said:

A gun that isn't loaded is as useful as carrying a medium size rock 

A loaded gun is useful for killing yourself.

[ecu88]

6 minutes ago, bryn10 said:

Haha, If only we had more restrictions on everyone in our society we may have been able to keep this one man from recklessly handling his firearms and accidentally killing himself.  Scary people actually think this way. 

It is. I have a shotgun and it is never loaded unless I am doing some form of activity, hunting/*****/etc. Restrictions would not have stopped this.

[ecu88]

Oh snap I can't shoot my *****. Wtf with *****. O well, no more skeeting. 

[Snake]

We should blame the guns.

[Lumps]

19 minutes ago, bryn10 said:

A gun that isn't loaded is as useful as carrying a medium size rock 

He wasn't carrying the guns on him for protection, he had them in a duffle bag. Common sense says unload them before throwing them into a duffle bag. Loading the weapon would take close to zero effort and time added to the fact he'd have to find the duffle bag and bring out the guns anyways, should the occasion occur.

 

The point is, there are times to keep a loaded gun and time you don't. If you don't know when/when not to, you should never own a weapon. A class or restrictions will never help stupidity and/or negligence. Some people are just that way.

 

It's like leaving a baby in the car. People do it all the time, even in heat. A class won't fix that, dumb will be dumb.

 

 

[imminent rogaine]

Luckily, in this case, no one else had to pay the consequence for his carelessness.

[ecu88]

10 minutes ago, imminent rogaine said:

Luckily, in this case, no one else had to pay the consequence for his carelessness.

Rules like if unused no bullets, loaded gun face the ground, safety on till use, common sense...

Anyways, good thing no one else got hurt....... 

[Bronn]

Karma?

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/former-colt-zurlon-tipton-arrested-suburban-indianapolis-190958965--nfl.html

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Tipton told police he was at a party when he received threatening text messages from his girlfriend's ex-boyfriend that indicated the woman was going to be harmed. Police said Tipton and another man drove to the woman's home, and he fired one round from an AR-15 assault weapon while in the driveway, incorrectly believing the ex-boyfriend was in the home.

 

[csx]

35 minutes ago, bryn10 said:

Haha, If only we had more restrictions on everyone in our society we may have been able to keep this one man from recklessly handling his firearms and accidentally killing himself.  Scary people actually think this way. 

Who are you debating?

[top dawg]

34 minutes ago, Lumps said:

He wasn't carrying the guns on him for protection, he had them in a duffle bag. Common sense says unload them before throwing them into a duffle bag. Loading the weapon would take close to zero effort and time added to the fact he'd have to find the duffle bag and bring out the guns anyways, should the occasion occur.

 

The point is, there are times to keep a loaded gun and time you don't. If you don't know when/when not to, you should never own a weapon. A class or restrictions will never help stupidity and/or negligence. Some people are just that way.

 

It's like leaving a baby in the car. People do it all the time, even in heat. A class won't fix that, dumb will be dumb.

 

 

I appreciate your actually responding to the subject, but I disagree that classes would not have helped. Sometimes people are stupid to be sure, but sometimes they are just ignorant. Ignorance and stupidity are not the same. Sometimes---lots of times---a person just needs to be taught. 

Just imagine if our armed forces went half-ass on teaching soldiers about gun safety. And it goes beyond just the military and guns. Teaching and learning helps to saves lives in a multitude of ways everyday. 

 

 

[ecu88]

3 minutes ago, top dawg said:

I appreciate your actually responding to the subject, but I disagree that classes would not have helped. Sometimes people are stupid to be sure, but sometimes they are just ignorant. Ignorance and stupidity are not the same. Sometimes---lots of times---a person just needs to be taught. 

Just imagine if our armed forces went half-ass on teaching soldiers about gun safety. And it goes beyond just the military and guns. Teaching and learning helps to saves lives in a multitude of ways everyday. 

 

 

True. Matter of perspective. Teaching would alleviate probably a lot these incidents. 

[panthers55]

3 hours ago, caatfan said:

I don't have a horse in this race but I know enough about handguns to know that "bound to fail sooner or later" is BS, unless "later" amounts to a couple hundred years of daily use.

Apparently you dont know much about handguns or you wouldn't say that safeties rarely if ever fail.  Sure the statistics say that on average safeties may fail one out of 1000 times you engage them.  But with over 300 million guns in the US you can do the math.  That means there are a possible 300,000 failures if all of these guns were fired one time.  Now multiply by the number of times people use them in a year and the number could be much larger.  And all that assumes that every gun owner knows how to operate the safety which is a big assumption.  But dont believe me, I just finished getting certified as an NRA rifle instructor and it is a major talking point in the course.  Safeties lure you into a false sense of security.  Anything mechanical by definition will fail at some time often without warning.  Different guns are manufactured by different companies by different standards.  It isnt as if all guns have to conform to the same standards. So yes they are not reliable and shouldnt be counted on at all.  The only safe gun is one that has no ammunition in it.  Plain and simple.

[beastson52]

This happens way too often. My friend in high school "accidently" killed himself while messing around with a gun while on the toilet. He removed the clip but never emptied the barrel..... one shot straight to the head.  RIP