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2016 NBA Draft Thread

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15 minutes ago, Proudiddy said:

Also, I think people don't really understand the NBA, especially on this board.  The NBA is the opposite of the NFL.  I've heard it explained before that in the NFL what makes you a winner is the supporting cast...  if you have 3-5 elite players, it's the other 48-50 guys that make the difference between being a perennial contender and being 8-8.  In the NBA, you can have 15 really good players, but unless you have 1 or 2 elite, all-nba players, you aren't going to win big.  You need the individual stars in this league to win.  The teams that are winning now did it with draft picks and supplementary FA signings or trades.  But, their homegrown talent is the core.  Historically, signing or trading for a star from another team (outside of the two recent "big threes") doesn't work, and even if it did, we can't even lure guys that are from here to come here, so unless we actually use our draft picks and draft well, we'll keep being what we've been.

On phone so can't quote both posts but I'll start by saying I 100% agree Dwight isn't really the answer but he is a name people know so he will likely get brought in. Not sure who else we could reasonably get unless we pull of a deal for Cousins then sign KD, but honestly if we get Cousins bringing Batum back and pairing him with Cousins, Kemba and MKG would be good enough.

As to the other point about needing a true superstar I agree to a point. The pistons showed you can have a team of good but not great players and get there and win it, it's just really hard to do. If Kemba, MKG and Frank keep progressing combined with Batum being Batum and us finding a competent rim protector while still having a solid bench I could see us going that route because I doubt we luck into a top 5 player.

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i'd also be hesitant because he is not a winner and is quite a crybaby.  He is a harbinger of dysfunction as well lol.  

the Kings are a losing, dysfunctional franchise, that's with or without cousins they're a terrible franchise overall. And if you were the best big in the game and had to deal with the poo that the kings do, publicly chastising you as well as continuing to draft centers to be backups to you rather than surround you with talent that will contribute in a starting lineup, would you not be dissatisfied and have some complaints also?
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3 hours ago, MichaelNewtonII said:
On Friday, June 24, 2016 at 0:24 AM, Proudiddy said:
i'd also be hesitant because he is not a winner and is quite a crybaby.  He is a harbinger of dysfunction as well lol.  

 

the Kings are a losing, dysfunctional franchise, that's with or without cousins they're a terrible franchise overall. And if you were the best big in the game and had to deal with the poo that the kings do, publicly chastising you as well as continuing to draft centers to be backups to you rather than surround you with talent that will contribute in a starting lineup, would you not be dissatisfied and have some complaints also?

I always tend to look at things from yhe player's perspective, first.  That being said, there have been tons of former players who have criticized Cousins for his behavior, which tells me he is contributing quite a bit to the overall dysfunction of their organization.

And, from everything I've heard and read, especially since the new ownership took over there, they have done everything in their power to pamper and pacify Boogie as well, which only further exacerbates the problems already present.  So, I don't think a change of scenery suddenly makes him a winner.  He is supremely talented, but his attitude will weigh on and influence whatever team he is on.

 

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