Possible trade scenarios?

[Leeroy Jenkins PhD]

The Panthers are loaded with talent.  I can't remember a time in Panther history when we were so loaded at a number of positions.  Given that a number of our cuts will likely get picked up by other teams, we are in a very interesting position to trade some of our excess talent before they get released. This is not a crazy idea around the league, just not something the Panthers have been in a position to do before.  Teams lower on the waiver wire are often willing to give up draft picks for a quality player. 

The most obvious position we could unload some talent from is DT.  We are all aware that Short is in the final year of his deal and one of the top players at his position.  He would likely fetch a good draft pick.  Even if Short does sign, that leaves at least 5 quality NFL starters at a position we will likely only keep 4.  With Butler, Star, Soliai, and Short the most likely starting rotation, Kyle Love could be traded.

TE is another position stacked with young talent.  Greg Olsen is a lock of course, which leaves Beau Sandland, Scott Simonson, Marcus Lucas, Braxton Deaver, and Ed Dickson competing for TE2.  If the Panthers like what they see out of their young talent, Ed Dickson who is signed through 2017 could be on the trade block. 

WR is a very interesting position for the Panther's this preseason.  It appears KB, Funchess, Hill, and Ginn are early favorites for the starting rotation, leaving players like Bersin, Philly Brown, Damiere Byrd, LaRon Byrd, Keyarris Garrett, and Kevin Norwood competing for the 5th and possibly final spot on the roster.  If the young talent impresses, some of the more seasoned vets could be offered up as trade bait.  I'm looking at you Bersin and Brown. 

LB is completely stacked as well.  Davis, Kuechly, and Shaq are solidified as the starters.  However, Jeremy Cash, Ben Jacobs, David Mayo, and A.J. Klein are competing for backup roles and special teams duties.  A.J. Klein, who is in the final year of his contract, would bring in the most value.  But would the team risk not having him as Luke's backup?

Finally we come to the RB position.  Stewart is obviously entrenched as the starter.  CAP, Wegher, Fozzy, and Simmons are competing for the backup roles.  If the young players live up to expectations in the preseason, Fozzy, who is in the final year of his contract, could be traded.

With an abundance of talent on the roster, Gettleman is going to have to make some very tough decisions after preseason.  These decisions would be a lot easier if we were to receive compensation for letting someone go. Trading for draft picks, a veteran CB, or backup LT is clearly an option at this point.   Hopefully Gettleman is weighing these options. 

[Leeroy Jenkins PhD]

1 minute ago, 15 said:

we don't trade players away, we'll trade late picks if there's anyone gettleman really wants to have on the roster. 

I don't think the team has ever been in this position before to be honest.  I think it would be a mistake to let a number of the aforementioned players leave without some form of compensation.  

[Untouchable]

Who's going to make a trade knowing we have to release these players before the season? Maybe a conditional 7th at best. 

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, Untouchable said:

Who's going to make a trade knowing we have to release these players before the season? Maybe a conditional 7th at best. 

Therein lies the problem.

Unless a team really wants a certain player so bad they wanna make sure no one else has a chance at him, they'll generally just wait till the team cuts them.

[KushMcDieselson]

Bersin as trade bait? Wut? Maybe some of the young players that people were surprised they didn't get drafted (Garrett or Cash) but I highly doubt any of our journeyman practice squad superstars are going to fetch a trade. But I don't see the likelihood of giving up future draft picks for someone who may have been cut anyways. Even the young rookies with potential but without a single year of NFL experience. But hey if we can get compensation for players we were going to cut anyways by all means gettlemagic up in dis bitch let's make it happen lol.

[top dawg]

I think you may be looking at some players through a Panthers fans' lens. I seriously doubt anyone would make a trade for any of the players you mentioned besides Short and maybe Klein (both of whom I would be surprised to see in a trade this season). The others are either not a priority until later in the season perhaps when someone gets hurt, or guys that could possibly be "stolen" from the practice squad, and that's even if a team would deem them to have more upside than what's on their active roster.

Just my opinion, though. I'm sure Getty has a better pulse of what the reality is personnel-wise in the league, and if he can make something happen, he will if he deems it necessary.

[Leeroy Jenkins PhD]

2 minutes ago, top dawg said:

I think you may be looking at some players through a Panthers fans' lens. I seriously doubt anyone would make a trade for any of the players you mentioned besides Short and maybe Klein (both of whom I would be surprised to see in a trade this season). The others are either not a priority until later in the season perhaps when someone gets hurt, or guys that could possibly be "stolen" from the practice squad, and that's even if a team would deem them to have more upside than what's on their active roster.

Just my opinion, though. I'm sure Getty has a better pulse of what the reality is personnel-wise in the league, and if he can make something happen, he will if he deems it necessary.

Well, the majority of the players did help the team go 15-1 and reach the Superb owl. Or it could be Carolina blue filtered lenses.  Either way, maybe other teams are drinking the kool-aid as well. 

[ctrcat]

If KK and/or agent play hardball and we aren't able to front load a large chunk of his long term salary to our cap this year, then I expect us to trade for a player with the excess funds that will help our push THIS year.  The 49ers were shopping Antoine Bethea, maybe a multi-Pro Bowl vet presence on the back end for a conditional late pick in 2018?  He'd be great insurance and experience at a minimum.

[mc52beast]

You know your team has hit the big time when you read a post like this on your fave forum... 

[PoundCat]

I don't think we could get enough value in any trade to make it worth it, not even for KK.

[DeeJay]

OFFSEASON THREADDDDDDDD!!!!

[Jangler]

I'm sure Daniel Snyder would be willing, and whoever is running Cleveland this year.

[KB_fan]

14 hours ago, KushMcDieselson said:

Bersin as trade bait? Wut? Maybe some of the young players that people were surprised they didn't get drafted (Garrett or Cash) but I highly doubt any of our journeyman practice squad superstars are going to fetch a trade.

That was my reaction as well....

Then I remembered that we traded for Norwell NORWOOD who was even less experienced than Bersin, but was a guy we'd liked in the draft.  But KB just had gone down, Funch was dealing with injuries, and so our depth at WR was a HUGE HUGE question......   So, obviously, in the right circumstances, a smart WR like Bersin with starting experience could be valuable to some other team.

But it has to be the right circumstances.... a team near the bottom of the waiver wire with a very specific need at a position.  Exactly what we were last August.

Otherwise, most teams will wait for cuts.

Oh... and Kyle Love:  hard to imagine him being desirable in a trade when he was out there on the market as a free agent earlier this season for a few weeks before we re-signed him.  Obviously the interest was not high in the Spring.  But circumstances change, injuries happen.... maybe some team will have a hole at DT and really want a guy like him.  It happens.

I hope some of the good players we're going to have to cut will find good situations on other teams.   If we can get some compensation for them, even better.  But I'm certainly not expecting much in the way of trades.

 

Corrected - I meant Norwood but typed Norwell.  Obviously one should drink coffee in the morning before trying to post anything more than one or two word responses.

 

[Biakabutuka Shula]

It's called depth, all the good teams have it.