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Alright, post your All-Time Top 10 now that Bron won his third. 3/7

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Yet another time machine argument relying on rules to be the cause of LeBron struggling, they are pointless and can be countered every time by putting the old players in today's rules. Just assume they all grew up in the same era, they'd all have the same mentalities, had LeBron grown up in the past playing the rougher game he'd be used to it by the time he got to the league, & vice versa if older players grew up with today's game

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First of all, let me say that the teams of the 80s and 90s would have crushed the teams of today. They were much tougher physically and mentally. 

Fouls were fouls back then. No need for crybabies because both the perpetrator and victim knew what a foul was, and it wasn't a "touch" foul for the most part.

The older teams were much more fundamentally sound and players had better all-around skills, particularly on defense. The games weren't three-point bonanzas. 

That being said, I will give Lebron his props. His stats are in the same vicinity of Jordan's, at least offensively (but for points in the playoffs). It's hard to compare eras since they are so different, but I have to give Jordan the leg up because competition was just better, and he has double the rings. 

For my money, right now, Jordan is the king of the hill. But James is amid the greats. Once his career us finished perhaps there will be a clearer picture, but I am not putting him ahead of Jordan or Bryant today. I probably can't even put him ahead of Russell or Chamberlain. Not today!

There have been a lot of great basketball players. Kareem, The Dream, Magic...James is in that category.

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On 6/23/2016 at 11:48 AM, ncsu12engr said:

All time starting 5:

PG: Magic

SG: MJ

SF: LeBron

PF: Tim Duncan

C: Kareem

This would be a great team but if we just get to pick a starting 5 and are allowed to fudge positions a little I would have to go with Magic, MJ, Bird, LeBron and Shaq. That is the best starting 5 in NBA history in my opinion. The only worry would be floor spacing but Bird would help that a ton.

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Can't believe someone seriously said LeBron would be barely top 20 or some poo back in the 90s.  Lmao.

Look, I loved 90s basketball and grew up with it too.  Michael Jordan is one of my, not just favorite athletes, but favorite people of all time... but you are just a straight up fuging hater if you believe some ignorant poo like that.  Barkley, Pippen, Olajuwon, Shaq, Rodman, Kemp, Mourning, Malone, etc are some of my favorite players of all time... LeBron is better than all those guys (Shaq is arguable... prime Shaq is extremely underrated IMO)

LeBron would be the 2nd best player in the league after MJ back then... and he'd also not be slowed down anywhere NEAR as much by the 80s/90s era defense as a few are making it out in this thread.  Zone defenses were illegal back then.  You had to play straight up man-to-man... outside of the occasional Scottie Pippen-type lockdown defender match up LeBron would be absolutely feasting against man-to-man defenses just as Jordan did... because those two guys are just flat out better athletes than everyone else with skills to boot.  The guy is 6'8 260+ WHILE also being one of the fastest players in the league and having the vision, IQ and passing skills of an elite point guard.  He hams it up with selling contact and poo in today's game because it's advantageous to do so.  That's the way the game has become.  If he played in the more physical 80s/90s era that obviously wouldn't be an advantage and he'd just play through it and freight train his way to the basket (again, 6'8, fuging 260+ lbs... his physique is built to take and brush of tons of punishment)

I already had LeBron in my top 5 even without the 3rd ring, but he's definitely cemented there now.  The guy is just flat out one of the greatest players to ever lace them up.  He'd be a dominant player in any era, as would MJ, Wilt, Shaq and some others.  As much of an MJ homer as I am (and I totally am), I flat out fully believe LeBron is the most talented player the NBA has ever seen when you account for all his attributes.  Jordan, while also being a supreme athlete, has LeBron handedly beat on the mental side of the game and skill-wise.  The only thing really holding LeBron back is he's never developed a consistent jumpshot outside of one or two seasons and has always been an extremely mediocre FT shooter.  If the dude had those two things in his arsenal it's scary to think about how good he could've been.

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On 6/24/2016 at 3:31 PM, Manos said:

This would be a great team but if we just get to pick a starting 5 and are allowed to fudge positions a little I would have to go with Magic, MJ, Bird, LeBron and Shaq. That is the best starting 5 in NBA history in my opinion. The only worry would be floor spacing but Bird would help that a ton.

Shaq is physically the most dominant big man we've ever seen but Kareem is the all time scoring leader and won at literally every level he ever played and did it for 20 years.

That starting 5 he is posted is on point. The bench for that team:

PG: Isiah Thomas

SG: Kobe Bryant

SF: Larry Bird

PF: Kevin McHale

C: Hakeem Olajuwon - (IMO skill trumps Shaq's sheer physicality here. Can't penalize Hakeem for being in MJ's era)

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First off, anyone that says it was rigged is a damn idiot and should be banned for that stupid poo.  So you mean the Warriors just let LeBron go for 41 in games 5 and 6, and post a triple double in game 7?  Steph just decided he didn't wanna ring and decided to brick every thing in the fourth in game 7?  That's dumb as fug.  Draymond cost them a prime chance to win it in game 5 by punching LeBron in the balls which yes it should have been a suspension.  The Warriors simply collapsed and LeBron played some of the best ball of his career.  That's why the Cavs won.

Also, saying LeBron wouldn't be very bit as dominant in the 90's is ridiculous.  As another user pointed out, you couldn't even play zone/help defense back then.  LeBron would have absolutely dominated just as much no doubt.  He's easily #2 now only behind MJ.

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16 hours ago, FuFuLamePoo said:

First off, anyone that says it was rigged is a damn idiot and should be banned for that stupid poo.  So you mean the Warriors just let LeBron go for 41 in games 5 and 6, and post a triple double in game 7?  Steph just decided he didn't wanna ring and decided to brick every thing in the fourth in game 7?  That's dumb as fug.  Draymond cost them a prime chance to win it in game 5 by punching LeBron in the balls which yes it should have been a suspension.  The Warriors simply collapsed and LeBron played some of the best ball of his career.  That's why the Cavs won.

Also, saying LeBron wouldn't be very bit as dominant in the 90's is ridiculous.  As another user pointed out, you couldn't even play zone/help defense back then.  LeBron would have absolutely dominated just as much no doubt.  He's easily #2 now only behind MJ.

He's not easily a damn thing, let alone second best of all time. He's a missed Kyrie three from being 2-5 in the Finals. He's in the top 10, which is fine for someone his age, so don't get your maroon No. 23 Cavs jersey in a wad. 

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