Gettledaddy says agents can't scare him

[SpclKen]

I really do not understand some of the hand wringing about getting KK a contract right now. First of all it is June and to quote Andrew Brandt "Deadlines spur action". The Panthers have ALL the chips in this negotiation for the next 2 years. If Short wants $16-$17 million a year, and just suppose the Panthers want him bad enough for that price tag, why in the WORLD would they give him that contract today? They can give that to him in 2 full years from now because Short is under contract for $1 million dollars ($1.4 in cap) this season and will be eligible for the tag next season ($13.6 million). so for less than his asking price we can get 2 more years from him with no organizational risk due to injury or decline in play. 

Short bears all the risk by betting on himself if he doesn't take the supposed $14 million a year deal offered. He plays for $1 million this year and could have an injury, Butler could develop to a comparable player for significantly cheaper, and Star could be given a large contract. This is strictly a business decision where the team holds the upper hand for the next 2 years and DG will not go over the value he has given that player  (and just as importantly that POSITION GROUP) unless it makes business sense to do that. That time to make that difficult decision to pay a premium is 2 years from now and a lot can happen in 2 years!

[top dawg]

1 hour ago, KB_fan said:

Basically, if Gettleman and our scouts & coaches can keep finding and developing great raw talent we'll be fine.  It will hurt to see a bunch of homegrown stars go play elsewhere, but that might just be the price we pay for sustainable success.

Yep! You have to keep your budget in balance, which helps to balance everything else.

I feel that the teams that have had sustainable success like the Patriots and Steelers handle their business in similar fashion.

[CRA]

1 hour ago, The Huddler said:

Lol @ people talking about red flags and flaws with Gman. He has goven you no reason to. 

You mean besides the fact he is a flesh a blood human?

Cam has flaws as a player, Belichick as coach, the list never ends...

Nobody bashed Dave.  I just said I am pumping the breaks on praising he is the GOAT.  How he handled the Norman thing is already credited as great....when it could be a disaster. 

 

[iamcline]

31 minutes ago, MV%doe said:

Here's the deal, Dave already has KK under contract for 3years @ 30 million.

Rough Salary 

2016- 1 mill the end of a rookie contract

2017- 13 mill first franchise tag

2018- 16 mill second year tag

If only Short and his agent saw it like this.

[juliosantos]

Hell cut kk and vernon butler will be better . Gettleman is the new bellichick

[juliosantos]

I learned not to question gettlemans moves . As long as we are winning its all good

[IGSaint]

Gettledaddy is the most cringeworthy thing I've ever read on this site even if it is in jest. 

[bigdog10]

I'm in the camp of letting KK play out this year. If he balls out, tag him and work on a long term deal. If he doesn't, his price goes down. 

 

Worst case scenario is you have KK for two years absolutely balling out while butler develops. 

[Mr. Scot]

2 hours ago, SetfreexX said:

I don't get why ''Gettleman's Ego'' keeps coming up...it's not ego, it's being realistic about player values, and what you can afford while trying to field and sustain what has developed into a superbowl caliber team in just three years. 

Get off the ego hyperbole, it's not ego, it's common sense. 

Bingo.

Overpaying for a player is one of those things that's kind of like cheating on your diet.

People say to themselves "oh I'll do it just this once and never again because this is just too good to pass up".  And that resolve generally lasts about as long as it takes for you to find the next thing that's "just too good to pass up". And the next, and the next, etc.

Suddenly you weigh 400 pounds and you don't know why because you never cheat. Well, except that one time...and that other time...and that other time, and...crap!

Likewise, you say to yourself "I'm against overpaying, but this is a player we just can't let go. We'll never do it again but it's okay just this once."

And that resolve lasts until next offseason, when suddenly there's another player that's "just too good to let go". And then there's another, and another and so on.

And then suddenly you're in cap hell, and nobody knows why. I mean, after all, you only really overpaid for that one guy... and that other guy...and that other guy and th...aaahhh $#@&.

That, or maybe you stick to your player value evaluations and build a winning team rather than throwing money at every guy that you just can't let yourself let go of.

Just a thought...

[ctrcat]

I like and agree with everything GMan says here.  If a long term deal isn't reached however, I'm going to be very irked if the $30+ million isn't used to help win the Lombardi THIS year.

[The Huddler]

Theres no rush anyway. One more year under contract and then theres the franchise tag

[ladypanther]

2 hours ago, CRA said:

 Dave's ego could come up down the road and cause issues IMO....there are some small red flags on that

Ego?  Why assume that.  Gettleman is a very smart football guy. He has spent his career learning how to win and how to build winners. He is staying true to his plan, which he has plenty of reason to believe in.  That is not ego...that is being smart and disciplined.

 

2 hours ago, SetfreexX said:

I don't get why ''Gettleman's Ego'' keeps coming up...it's not ego, it's being realistic about player values, and what you can afford while trying to field and sustain what has developed into a superbowl caliber team in just three years. 

Get off the ego hyperbole, it's not ego, it's common sense. 

yep

[Mr. Scot]

Best response to the 'drunken sailor' line comes from a PFT commenter named 'Sportsdad'.

"You can, however, shop like a drunken Colts owner."

[CPF4LIFE]

I bet that just makes everybody on here so giddy