~~The official FIRE JOHN FOX AND MARTY HURNEY thread~~

[Sam Mills Fan]

You want to see opposing fans fill up the stands at Bank of America Stadium? Just wait until our next home game when we play the 'Skins if we're 0-3...

[MadHatter]

yeah i know what you mean.. i've lived here my whole life (26 years) and the fans in this city make me absolutely sick

Then fuging move....no one is making you stay here and cheer for the Panthers.

[ClawOn]

The NFL is a performance-based business. The performance isn't there and is highly unlikely to be there for the rest of the season.

As Sam Mills Fan points out, the problem is primarily personnel. Dollars were misallocated. Existing talent is under-utilized. You get fired for that in any business. In the NFL, that means the head coach and GM are gone.

[Zod]

If my boss just canned his two sons for doing a poor job, and I was doing a poor job, I may be looking for a nice sturdy cardboard box right about now.

[cress]

Readin these posts, it sounds like we could win the Super Bowl and people would still call for Fox, Hurney, and Delhommes to be shipped to Siberia. Delhomme is our starter-GET OVER IT. Cutler throws four picks last week, Romo throws three, Matt Cassel throws two..yet everyone wants to poo on Jake. He is a good quarterback. I know I will get poo on for this statement. But he still has a lot of support. He looked good yesterday. And HIS TEAM believes in him. Two years ago, Jake went down and we had the former #1 draft pick Carr come in and look like a monkey slinging feces. Then Testaverde. Then Moore, who was able to find Smith a couple of times, and people thought he was aweosme. He is pedestrian at best.

People talk about poor draft picks. Beason, DeAngelo, Stewart, Otah...yeah, these were piss poor choices guys. HA. I think Hurney and Fox have chosen wisely. Jarrett has turned into a bust so far. But most teams would have chose him based upon potential.

Richardson runs the franchise. He is informed by Hurney and Fox of their decisions. He has stuck with these guys for 7 years now because he wants consistentcy and he believes they can get them to the Super Bowl.

I support Fox and Hurney.

[Zod]

I support Fox and Hurney.

Good for you.

I support the Panthers, and anyone that is in the way of them winning can get the f*ck out...

[ClawOn]

Agreed

You shouldn't. The GM makes personnel decisions. Overspending on Peppers, Delhomme, and Gamble left no cap space for quality defensive additions. Nothing "genius" about that.

Plus, in the modern history of the NFL, no team has ever fallen short of the Superbowl, made no signficant changes/ additions, and magically had enough to win it the next year.

By my math: 12-4 minus starting DT plus nothing = 5-11

[scpanther22]

this just in..lol.from espn

Carolina’s offense ranks 21st (14th rushing and 24th passing). The Panthers rank 15th in total defense (they’re tied for 28th against the run and third against the pass)

[Cyclonus]

Time to clean house

[Sam Mills Fan]

To all those praising our draft picks, look at this list and see if you can name ONE late-round draft pick (5-7) that we've drafted under Fox and Hurney that turned out to be worth a damn:

2009

Everette Brown

Sherrod Martin

Corvey Irvin

Mike Goodson

Tony Fiammetta

Duke Robinson

Captain Munnerlyn

2008

Jonathan Stewart

Jeff Otah

Charles Godfrey

Dan Connor

Gary Barnidge

Nick Hayden

Hilee Taylor

Geoff Schwartz

Mackenzy Bernadeau

2007

Jon Beason

Dwayne Jarrett

Ryan Kalil

Charles Johnson

Ryne Robinson

Dante Rosario

Tim Shaw

C.J. Wilson

2006

DeAngelo Williams

Richard Marshall

James Anderson

Rashad Butler

Nate Salley

Jeff King

Will Montgomery

Stanley McClover

2005

Thomas Davis

Eric Shelton

Evan Mathis

Atiyyah Ellison

Stefan LeFors

Adam Seward

Geoff Hangartner

Ben Emanuel

Jovan Haye

Joe Berger

2004

Chris Gamble

Keary Colbert

Travelle Wharton

Drew Carter

Sean Tufts

Michael Gaines

2003

Jordan Gross

Bruce Nelson

Mike Seidman

Ricky Manning Jr.

Colin Branch

Kindal Moorehead

Walter Young

Casey Moore

2002

Julius Peppers

DeShaun Foster

Will Witherspoon

Dante Wesley

Randy Fasani

Kyle Johnson

Keith Heinrich

Pete Campion

Brad Franklin

We've only drafted two good players in late rounds in their eight drafts: Geoff Hangartner and Jovan Haye. We let Hangartner walk because we apparently thought we didn't need him and John Fox CUT Jovan Haye who has went on to beast it up for the Bucs and Titans.

We put such a huge emphasis on the first-round talent (of which I'll admit that we've struck gold each and every year) that our late-round evaluation has suffered. This has led to the decimation of depth on this team where not a single starter has quality players backing them up except for DeAngelo Williams. The teams that ACTUALLY draft well are the ones that can find 5th, 6th, 7th round picks and turn them into starters. You can argue that Captain Munnerlyn might turn into that fabled late-round gem one day, but he sure isn't there yet.

And even though I emphasized the late-round picks, you can go through that list and find your fair share of high-round busts as well.

[GODFREE]

tired of hearing same ol poo, want to here fans that aren't so doom and gloom, either find a new team or try http://lmgtfy.com/?q=carolinapantherfans.com

ol yeah who ever added the Jessica Simpson background..........I love you.

[Kurb]

Good for you.

I support the Panthers, and anyone that is in the way of them winning can get the f*ck out...

Smartest thing you have said in months:hat:

[SmootsDaddy89]

I hate you Kurb.

[SmootsDaddy89]

That was probably the quickest I've ever had a thread deleted. Somewhat impressed.

Somewhat.