The scoop on Bucs drafting of kicker Aguayo. A lesson from Belichick?

[Montsta]

The issue for me isn't so much the value they placed on him. It's that they could have gotten him much later than they did. Even if he's the next great kicker, he could have been had way later, let alone trading up to get him. 

[DaveThePanther2008]

This comes from the same clown that thinks he has drafted 7 first round grade players in the past two seasons.

 

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/bucs-gm-thinks-hes-drafted-seven-first-round-talents-the-last-two-years/

 

[Frank Hollywood]

If you know without a doubt he's going to  be the greatest kicker in the league for the next 20 years, then sure, take him at the end of the second or early third. Problem is, no one knows for sure and this specific guy doesn't seem on that level. 

[MountainHeel66]

This is even dumber and sadder if he really doesn't have much more than a 45-50 yard leg as well. They already had Connor Barth who, while he doesn't possess the strongest leg by any means, has a very ACCURATE leg. The only problem with Barth is that as a veteran he has to be paid a good bit of money more than a younger kicker. So they basically got a somewhat better, but unproven, talent and reduced salary.... with a 2nd round pick that they gave up a 3rd and a 4th for.... this is in realm of the Armanti Edwards trade up.

 

I mean seriously.. they could have had 2-3 more high draft picks and still had a solid and experienced kicker to hold things down and taken a kicker later or gone the UDFA route and still had a chance at a future all-pro.

[fjblair]

On 5/20/2016 at 6:06 PM, Daddy_Uncle said:

They can try to explain it all they want, but Gettleman isn't dumb enough to take a kicker in the second round. If you're trying to rely on kickers to win games for you then you're doing something wrong.

On the other hand if you can't rely on kickers to win games for you then you are doing something wrong. It's only the teams leading scorer after all.

[PhillyB]

can't wait til he cracks under the pressure and shanks a few into the stratosphere 

[Hogmolliesmaht]

On May 20, 2016 at 6:30 PM, rodeo said:

Belicheck is a garbage drafter

Seriously, how many good players has that guy passed on in the last 5-6 years just because he likes trading down? He's a great coach, but an average drafter, otherwise, he would have taken Tom Brady long before the 6th round. IT was pure luck that Brady was still there and turned out to be a HOFer.

[thennek]

Without Tom Brady, Belicheck would have been an average coach.  

[Cary Kollins]

Falcons out here reaching for a safety and paying Sanu texas$$$

 

Saints trying to break the bank for Josh Norman as if they are one player away.

Tampa trading UP for a kicker in the 2nd round.

 

what a time to be alive

[the butch]

lol.  i understand the lesson to be learned.  but the execution is just way off here.  you take his QUESTION in a meeting room EXERCISE as actual team-building plan?  to me, it seemed largely an academic thought; ya know, "team sports" blah blah.  holy poo bucs . . . 

[mc52beast]

Just ask yourself;

Would Dave Gettleman make that move...

probably not

[rodeo]

8 hours ago, Hogmolliesmaht said:

Seriously, how many good players has that guy passed on in the last 5-6 years just because he likes trading down? He's a great coach, but an average drafter, otherwise, he would have taken Tom Brady long before the 6th round. IT was pure luck that Brady was still there and turned out to be a HOFer.

Exactly. Gettleman laughs at him settling for 5 dimes instead of 1 dollar every year.

[KB_fan]

15 minutes ago, Hammerin'Cameron34 said:

Imagine if Gano misses the FG to win the game against the Giants though

We were relying on him to win the game in that very moment, but not for the whole game before that

Gano also won us the Indy game in overtime with his two clutch kicks. 

[AceBoogie]

We lost a super bowl because of a kicker, Minnesota should have beaten Seattle last year but lost because of the kicker. How many game winners and memorable moments end with a kick to win it all? Hell on teams the leading scorer in its history is going to be the kicker. 

Its not that you're relying on the kicker to win the game and I hate that narrative. The kicker is part of your damn offense and sometimes you need to call upon them because it your best chance at points. Sure how about you just bomb it from 50 yards out instead. The kicker is one of the most valuable assets on your team and I have no problem with them getting a good one. Wouldn't be the first time a team traded up for a bust.