Panthers Release Boykin

[The Link]

7 minutes ago, tiger7_88 said:

Nobody ever said Gettleman was infallible. The fact that you constant critics keep using this non-argument strawman only weakens *your* argument.

But, hypothetically, if people did believe Gettleman was infallible, in what way does cutting Boykin prove he isn't?

Constant critic? I hardly ever criticize DG. Don't throw around labels unless they're warranted.

 

Cutting a solid veteran corner who you just brought in for below market value is nonsensical, especially considering our lack of experience at that position. Not mention you just payed him to do nothing.

[EightyNine]

11 minutes ago, Bartin said:

Maybe but how do you explain Robert McClain then? He's still on the roster, his contract is basically the same as Boykin's and he has 1 year left on it.

Well you cant keep everyone forever.   Sometimes, you need a place holder even though its not ideal.  My guess is that they like McClain more than Boykin.

 

[RoaringRiot]

14 minutes ago, Bartin said:

Maybe but how do you explain Robert McClain then? He's still on the roster, his contract is basically the same as Boykin's and he has 1 year left on it.

My guess would be that he played last year and was serviceable....and he already knows the system.

[Sam Mills Fan]

Just now, tiger7_88 said:

You are seriously gonna ride this $80K shetland pony into battle, aren't you? 

Hey, you can say it was a small mistake, can't say it wasn't a mistake. $80,000 for *literally* *nothing*. 

[RoaringRiot]

LOL at those acting like paying $80K to Boykin has some major affect on our cap. 

[Sam Mills Fan]

4 minutes ago, tiger7_88 said:

Bless your heart.

Yeah, Rivera looked super thrilled with Norman getting let go...that was definitely done with his approval.

[Nick_81]

16 minutes ago, Growl said:

This is nothing but you admitting that I accurately surmised the entirety of your rubbish post without having to read it in full.

This is nothing but me laughing, because you think I gave your post the time of day, when you couldn't mine...

[EightyNine]

2 minutes ago, Sam Mills Fan said:

If Gettleman cut Boykin because of how great our 3 rookies looked, that's absurd. He would have had to have based that off one short rookie minicamp. Is that enough to make an impression? Maybe, but that also means he would have had to have thought a veteran like Boykin was also straight up garbage based off one short minicamp. The two do not compute.

 

It is asinine for Gettleman to say 3 rookies are better than Boykin based off one rookie minicamp when Boykin has played very well in actual NFL games. I don't care if Boykin was literally falling over his feet this month.

I doubt it was based only on rookie minicamp.  Maybe that played a small factor.  Im guessing trusting their scouting and the college film played a bigger part.

[Sam Mills Fan]

1 minute ago, RoaringRiot said:

LOL at those acting like paying $80K to Boykin has some major affect on our cap. 

Money for nothing is dumb. Cutting a very good veteran player for 3 rookies with no experience based off one minicamp is even dumber.

[top dawg]

4 minutes ago, Bartin said:

Maybe but how do you explain Robert McClain then? He's still on the roster, his contract is basically the same as Boykin's and he has 1 year left on it.

That's what I especially don't get. Robert McClain was "torched" (in the words NFL.com's Kevin Patra) during his less than triumphant return, so why not cut him? Boykin's upside, even outside, has to be greater than McClain's.  

Here is what PFF has to say today. 

 

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Boykin was PFF’s 29th-highest-graded CB last season—21st the season before that. In 2013, his best season in the league, he was arguably the top slot corner in the game, and had a higher PFF coverage grade than everybody except Vontae Davis.

The now former Panther has a positive PFF grade in every season of his career, and hasn’t been beaten for a pass longer than 33 yards over the past two seasons, a timespan over which he has allowed just one touchdown.

After the 2013 season, PFF was pushing for Boykin to see an expanded role as an every-down outside corner. Instead, his career went in the other direction, and he began to be cut loose from a series of teams in quick succession.

Boykin’s play never dropped, but he has struggled to see the field lately. In 2015, the Steelers seemed particularly reluctant to give him significant playing time; he played just 23 snaps before Week 13 of the season, when injuries forced them deep into the bench. From that point onwards, he earned a +4.7 cumulative grade (remember that 0.0 is considered average on PFF’s cumulative scale), did not allow a touchdown, and recorded a pick and two passes defensed. If not for the impressive play of Ross Cockrell over that same time, Boykin would have been Pittsburgh’s best-performing defensive back.

 

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2016/05/16/pro-brandon-boykins-on-field-production-still-at-high-level/

 

I don't get this off-again-on-again love affair with McClain, when Boykin is arguably the better player, especially in the slot where he offered depth if nothing else.

[Sam Mills Fan]

1 minute ago, EightyNine said:

I doubt it was based only on rookie minicamp.  Maybe that played a small factor.  Im guessing trusting their scouting and the college film played a bigger part.

Scouting also plays a part in signing other team's veteran free agents. Did something break down there when they signed Boykin in the first place?

[davos]

Boykin:

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Lol NFL does not surprise me anymore.. Business is crazy. On to the next.

https://twitter.com/BrandonBoykin2/status/732202949359902720?ref_src=twsrc^tfw

[SmokinwithWilly]

Could also be that Gman didn't figure Boykin was going to make it through the cuts and did him a solid by allowing him to go out and get another offer.

I don't see an early cut as the intention when he was originally signed, but the draft may have made him expendable. No way to have predicted those 3 corners who Carolina had ranked where they did would be available. Sometimes you get lucky.

Either way, good luck to him and hope he lands on another team not in the nfc south.

[tiger7_88]

1 minute ago, The Link said:

Constant critic? I hardly ever criticize DG. Don't throw around labels unless they're warranted.

Cutting a solid veteran corner who you just brought in for below market value is nonsensical, especially considering our lack of experience at that position. Not mention you just payed him to do nothing.

As others have pointed out, the draft changed EVERYTHING.

There was absolutely no way for Gettleman to know prior to the draft that 3 of the total 4 cornerbacks that he brought in for visits and private workouts were going to be available to him. There was NO WAY he probably ever thought that Sanchez, a guy that is a perfect slot corner, was going to still be available at the BOTTOM of the 5th round.

The draft worked out as an embarrassment of CB riches as far as Gettleman was concerned. Now you're shocked and surprised that actually changed coaches and general managers minds?