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Its so easy to blame Jake or Fox but our Dline was pushed around. The 17mill man could not beat 1 guy and no one else could ether. ATL beat us cause Ryan had time and the WRs just sat in the holes in the zone.

John Fox is to blame for these holes in our zone, we don't have the personal to run an effective cover 2/tampa we have 2 cover corners, but we force them to play zone, our front four is still under performing so we don't uniquely blitz. I could go on....

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For the people saying Jake played well, he didn't. He did good by his standards, but he didn't play well. He didn't suck either though.

dude, Jake did EXACTLY what he was suppose to do today. He isn't asked or expect to be Drew Brees in this offense. Today's game was the perfect example of what we were worried about coming into the season.....John Fox's defensive philosophy and how it will not work with this seconadary....we saw all of this last season. Jake was good Jake today......the finger points as always to Fox....like it has the past 3 games.

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This is MEEKS DEFENSE. HE IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE RESULTS. Not Fox. Like Hurney, Fox, and Richardson hired Meeks to just come in and run their defensive team through a series of tough drills in practice. Not to install any sort of defensive strategy. Because its Foxs' scheme. Well, folks, its Meeks defense. And it sucks. Bring Turgovac back!

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This is MEEKS DEFENSE. HE IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE RESULTS. Not Fox. Like Hurney, Fox, and Richardson hired Meeks to just come in and run their defensive team through a series of tough drills in practice. Not to install any sort of defensive strategy. Because its Foxs' scheme. Well, folks, its Meeks defense. And it sucks. Bring Turgovac back!

^^^^^ Is this guy serious? :confused:

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This is MEEKS DEFENSE. HE IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE RESULTS. Not Fox. Like Hurney, Fox, and Richardson hired Meeks to just come in and run their defensive team through a series of tough drills in practice. Not to install any sort of defensive strategy. Because its Foxs' scheme. Well, folks, its Meeks defense. And it sucks. Bring Turgovac back!

what you saw today was the EXACT same thing you saw the last half of last season.......DC doesn't matter as both Meeks/Trgo implent their version of the FOX defense and apply FOX's defensive philosphy........it doesn't work with the current defensive roster.

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Its so easy to blame Jake or Fox but our Dline was pushed around. The 17mill man could not beat 1 guy and no one else could ether. ATL beat us cause Ryan had time and the WRs just sat in the holes in the zone.

Yup. I just have to imagine what a true defensive guru could do with our talent. Rushing 4 and having everyone else sit back and react is NOT the way to put your mark on the game as a defensive play caller IMHO. Hell, I COULD TO DO THAT!!!

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You know what we were 12-4 last season; 2-0 at the beginning of the season. Our defense faltered in the latter half of the season. But we still competed. The defense I see on the field now is LIFELESS. The secondary(which has always sucked in the Fox era) is still "out to lunch." WHY can't we fix the secondary? We have good players, but our scheme is bad. And Meeks was supposedly to change this and make it better. "Oh, Meeks has freed us up to be more athletic and free to make plays" is what was said by a lot of defensive players since his arrival. WHERE IS THIS HAPPENING IN THE DEFENSE? And you want to blame John Fox? This defense looks awful compared to the 2008 team.

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We are a good team, we just have a really fuging tough schedule.

When you were 12-4 last year, teams should be looking at you as 'oh hell we have to play THEM'. How many teams on our schedule had a better record than us? Not trying to be a douche, but the 'tough schedule' argument isn't legit. Yes, some of these teams had awesome records LAST YEAR, just like us. A tough schedule is one of those teams that was 3-13 last year when every single team they play had a better one. That's a 'tough schedule'. We are just getting outcoached. Period...

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When you were 12-4 last year, teams should be looking at you as 'oh hell we have to play THEM'. How many teams on our schedule had a better record than us? Not trying to be a douche, but the 'tough schedule' argument isn't legit. Yes, some of these teams had awesome records LAST YEAR, just like us. A tough schedule is one of those teams that was 3-13 last year when every single team they play had a better one. That's a 'tough schedule'. We are just getting outcoached. Period...

Best post of the day.

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