According to these analytics Gettleman killed it again

[CatMan72]

Panthers quoted one of this guy's tweets in an article, so he must have some credibility.

[carpanfan96]

Sparq is what colleges use in recruiting, it solely grades a player on athleticism. They even do the hs>college combine type events. 

Nike sparq combine. 

 

This combines tfreak, SLA, and Sparq. Which grades a player on SPARQ [speed, power, agility, reaction, quickness] tFreak is a formula for him that measures size.  SLA is strength, length and athleticism. 

 

So his grading system is based solely on the players size (for position) length, and athleticism.

 

So players like Bradberry at 6-1 211 will grade out high on size and length. The fact he runs a 4.5 and is very athletic makes him grade out high in the athleticism areas. Combined they make him a blue chip player and a very unique one as well.

 

[ecu88]

Found old thread of mini project. Might reboot the system?  

It is no way perfect but it was fun to create. Going to reevaluate the model.

:)

[frash.exe]

@KB_fan and @TheSpecialJuan are two good young Turks for this forum

[KB_fan]

1 hour ago, tiger7_88 said:

@KB_fan would put this guy to shame if (as she said in another thread) she didn't have a life.

:P

Probably this one is even over my pay grade, or at least MUCH MUCH more work than I'd ever be willing to invest.  Given that I don't have easy access to watch college football here in West Africa, putting together analytics on draft prospects will never be my thing anytime soon.  But I will really enjoy seeing how well this guy's analysis predicts success in the NFL.  Will be fun to see. 

Of course there's so much more then the physical traits and talents that go into success.  As has been said (by DG last night!): you need the right fit / scheme, and also good coaching and a good organization.  Put one of this guy's top players on an incompetent team with lousy coaches and he may become a "bust"... so at some point to assess how well this analysis predicts great players, you might have to include some kind of indicators related to team quality / scheme fit.

[carpanfan96]

9 minutes ago, KB_fan said:

Probably this one is even over my pay grade, or at least MUCH MUCH more work than I'd ever be willing to invest.  Given that I don't have easy access to watch college football here in West Africa, putting together analytics on draft prospects will never be my thing anytime soon.  But I will really enjoy seeing how well this guy's analysis predicts success in the NFL.  Will be fun to see. 

Of course there's so much more then the physical traits and talents that go into success.  As has been said (by DG last night!): you need the right fit / scheme, and also good coaching and a good organization.  Put one of this guy's top players on an incompetent team with lousy coaches and he may become a "bust"... so at some point to assess how well this analysis predicts great players, you might have to include some kind of indicators related to team quality / scheme fit.

Major reason players bust is fit/scheme. However if you use these analytics on past drafts, blue chip players are around 64% more successful then non blue chip players.

 

Just to give you an idea of accuracy with no other inputs factored in. Remove the outliers because of scheme and other factors and it's probably closer to 80% difference in success rates. 

[mc52beast]

2 hours ago, Paa Langfart said:

that is nice but has anyone heard of ethan young before?

Most people here didn't know who Dave Gettleman was till he was hired as our GM...

[Ruff]

What's amazing is that when the Browns hired the baseball exec to come in and look for ways they can improve using analytics, everyone panned them. 'What a horrible idea!' 'Lol, Browns gonna Brown', 'Sabermetrics don't work in the NFL'. Yet, here we are, using SPARQ as an incredibly effective way to analyze prospects. 

[The Lobo]

1 hour ago, CatMan72 said:

Panthers quoted one of this guy's tweets in an article, so he must have some credibility.

Which article?

[TheSpecialJuan]

1 hour ago, KB_fan said:

Probably this one is even over my pay grade, or at least MUCH MUCH more work than I'd ever be willing to invest.  Given that I don't have easy access to watch college football here in West Africa, putting together analytics on draft prospects will never be my thing anytime soon.  But I will really enjoy seeing how well this guy's analysis predicts success in the NFL.  Will be fun to see. 

Of course there's so much more then the physical traits and talents that go into success.  As has been said (by DG last night!): you need the right fit / scheme, and also good coaching and a good organization.  Put one of this guy's top players on an incompetent team with lousy coaches and he may become a "bust"... so at some point to assess how well this analysis predicts great players, you might have to include some kind of indicators related to team quality / scheme fit.

lol  yeah, seriously.

[KB_fan]

1 hour ago, The Lobo said:

Which article?

An article about Bradberry

http://www.panthers.com/news/article-2/Five-things-to-know-about-James-Bradberry/0b0e96e2-a5c6-4baf-a9ac-c077dc0a72cf
 

Quote

 

4. He’s built for football

The Panthers like Bradberry’s size, and his combine performance garnered attention from several NFL clubs, but those are not the only reasons he’sregarded as one of the top corners in the class of 2016.

According to draft analyst Ethan Young, Bradberry grades extremely high on the "Slaytics" scale, a metric that evaluates combine measurables and athletic ability.

 

 

[KB_fan]

Was browsing through team stream on B/R and came across a couple of stats tweets by PFF during the draft about our CBs.  Hadn't seen these before.  Apologies if they already got posted in one of the draft discussion threads:

 

and this about Butler:

 

[KB_fan]

By the way speaking of B/R got a huge laugh just now to see that our pick of Butler was graded lowest (C-) of any round 1 pick.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2637119-nfl-draft-2016-rounds-1-7-results-grades-and-hidden-gems

That will be a nice chip that Vernon can wear on his shoulder.  Thanks B/R.  And we can have fun dredging this up when he becomes a pro bowler or better still an All pro.

[Bartin]

Well, it seems this board has come full circle. Now everyone is excited Gettleman went for the underwear olympics champions and not the football players on tape guys?