About those corners...

[BombzAway]

If the G'Fatha and staff get these CB's to work for us I will totally give him credit but from what I've seen on (the admittedly very little in some cases) film thats out there from highlight tapes, to game film, to Senior Bowl practice tape/game film etc. these young men are at best going to take a while to develop. These guys do not appear to be ready to contribute more than moderately in the near future.

If we're just going to have to use the guys on the roster that we had beforehand or bring another vet in at CB then it maybe would have been nice to draft players at a position with immediate impact potential for us in the first 3 rounds (DE?). I understand building for the long haul as well as short term but we definitely have spots that need improving to get us over the hump short term as well. Will certainly be interesting to look back as the season goes. Obviously hope G-Man made more Gettlemagic with these selections.

[csx]

9 minutes ago, BombzAway said:

If the G'Fatha and staff get these CB's to work for us I will totally give him credit but from what I've seen on (the admittedly very little in some cases) film thats out there from highlight tapes, to game film, to Senior Bowl practice tape/game film etc. these young men are at best going to take a while to develop. These guys do not appear to be ready to contribute more than moderately in the near future.

If we're just going to have to use the guys on the roster that we had beforehand or bring another vet in at CB then it maybe would have been nice to draft players at a position with immediate impact potential for us in the first 3 rounds (DE?). I understand building for the long haul as well as short term but we definitely have spots that need improving to get us over the hump short term as well. Will certainly be interesting to look back as the season goes. Obviously hope G-Man made more Gettlemagic with these selections.

I understand your logic but why would a DE pick contribute more than a cb? An end wouldn't start over Johnson or Ealy either. The only position I could see starting would be on the secondary or if we had landed a top OT. Other than these areas a draft pick isn't starting for this team IMO.

[motocross_cat]

7 minutes ago, csx said:

I understand your logic but why would a DE pick contribute more than a cb? An end wouldn't start over Johnson or Ealy either. The only position I could see starting would be on the secondary or if we had landed a top OT. Other than these areas a draft pick isn't starting for this team IMO.

Pretty much what gettleman said in his presser.  He likes the ends too much to spend a pick on another.  They are high on delaire, cox and miley.

[heel31ok]

1 hour ago, Bogart said:

Are you like mentally challenged or something?  The probability is good you have no clue how to build a football team and trying to scream nana nana boo boo with incoherent bullshit doesn't help your case.

which has zero to do with what i said... no one screamed nana nana boo boo! and the incoherence you experience is more likely on your end not mine.But keep swinging you may hit something eventually.

[heel31ok]

1 hour ago, tiger7_88 said:

So in your professional football opinion, there have been no good professional talent evaluators in the NFL since the beginning of NFL time since picks have ALWAYS been traded for other draft picks in this league.

That is the logical conclusion to what you are saying, right? That heel31ok has discovered the ULTIMATE secret to the NFL Draft Code that *no* other professional football draft evaluator has ever been able to crack? 

so are you auditioning for new dem press secretary? try to stay on subject without making up new premises that don't exist in the context of the subject...you and Bogart must we study buddies...

[heel31ok]

1 hour ago, Mr. Scot said:

Actually it's also about the number of spots available on the roster.

The reason why we traded up last year was because we didn't have room for nine rookies on an already crowded roster.

Same situation applies this year.

Someone with team building experience knows that.

at least you give a logical answer without making crap up...  the conclusion then is there were no other prospects who could improve the team enough to win a spot ? Or maybe GMAN  didn't want to make changes at certain spots? that could be true but it is also true that you don't have to keep everybody you bring in.

[beckersteen]

6 hours ago, heel31ok said:

at least you give a logical answer without making crap up...  the conclusion then is there were no other prospects who could improve the team enough to win a spot ? Or maybe GMAN  didn't want to make changes at certain spots? that could be true but it is also true that you don't have to keep everybody you bring in.

Not keeping who you bring in is wasted resources. You could, say, use that resource to move up in the draft and choose someone you actually really want. He is content at DE and didn't think the rookies available would have any more impact than someone we already have. It wasn't valuable. 

[heel31ok]

2 hours ago, beckersteen said:

Not keeping who you bring in is wasted resources. You could, say, use that resource to move up in the draft and choose someone you actually really want. He is content at DE and didn't think the rookies available would have any more impact than someone we already have. It wasn't valuable. 

Sorry but no.the very nature of the business of the NFL makes your wasted resourcev theory Unrealistic...the wasted resource would be not making more picks when you have the gold standard making the picks...every team brings in more prospectsvwhich give more opportunity to improve with little or no b downside ...

[Mr. Scot]

21 minutes ago, heel31ok said:

Sorry but no.the very nature of the business of the NFL makes your wasted resourcev theory Unrealistic...the wasted resource would be not making more picks when you have the gold standard making the picks...every team brings in more prospectsvwhich give more opportunity to improve with little or no b downside ...

Actually his 'wasted resources' comment is exactly right.

The choice would be between using three draft picks to get one good player and two who won't make it out of camp versus trading away the two lower picks to move up and get a great player.

That's smart management, and smart teams do it all the time.

[heel31ok]

9 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Actually his 'wasted resources' comment xactly right.

The choice woul d be between using three draft picks to get one good player and two who won't make it out of camp versus trading away the two lower picks to move up and get a great player.

That's smart management, and smart teams do it all the time.

So There were no iOther Players as good available? Very unlikely...we reached, which makes the pt Of less to get more invalid...

[Nick_81]

1 minute ago, heel31ok said:

we reached

According to who?

[Mr. Scot]

Just now, heel31ok said:

So There were no iOther Players as good available? Very unlikely...we reached, which makes the pt Of less to get more invalid...

As the draft goes on, the quality of the players available gets lower.

The equation is simple: One good player and two who won't make the roster means you wind up with one good player. Packaging the picks means you don't waste your time on two guys who weren't going to make it anyway and you wind up with one great player.

It's not hard to understand.

[heel31ok]

4 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

As the draft goes on, the quality of the players available gets lower.

The equation is simple: One good player and two who won't make the roster means you wind up with one good player. Packaging the picks means you don't waste your time on two guys who weren't going to make it anyway and you wind up with one great player.

It's not hard to understand.

Oh, so We got iOur Licks in early and that makes the choice better or great even...the timing iOf the pick is the key if we took the same players later it would not have been As good a pick...

[heel31ok]

10 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

S the draft tthe quality os play ers avai lable gets lower. 

The equation is simple: One good player and two who won't make the roster means you wind up with one good player. Packaging the picks means you don't waste your time on two guys who weren't going to make it anyway and you wind up with one great player.

It's not hard to understand.

You dont Lose anything with the extra pick and with thev great Talent evaluation you have more opportunity to improve...thats Not hard to understand...well u It shouldn't Be...