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2016 NFL DRAFT ROUND 4 GENERAL DISCUSSION


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10 Draft Trades took place last night. Here are the details for all of these deals & more:

 

Date
Team 1
Acquired
Team 2
Acquired
April 29 JAX 2016 Rd. 2 (#36-Myles Jack) BAL 2016 Rd. 2 (#38)
2016 Rd. 5 (No. 146)
April 29 MIA 2016 Rd. 2 (No. 38-Xavien Howard) BAL 2016 Rd. 2 (No. 42-Kamalei Correa)
2016 Rd. 4 (No. 104)
April 29 BUF 2016 Rd. 2 (No. 41-Reggie Ragland) CHI 2016 Rd. 2 (No. 49-Traded)
2016 Rd. 4 (No. 117)
2017 Rd. 4
April 29 GB 2016 Rd. 2 (No. 48-Jason Spriggs) IND 2016 Rd. 2 (No. 57-T.J. Green)
2016 Rd. 4 (No. 125)
2016 Rd. 7 (No. 248)
April 29 SEA 2016 Rd. 2 (No. 49-Jarran Reed) CHI 2016 Rd. 2 (No. 56-Cody Whitehair)
2016 Rd. 4 (No. 124)
April 29 TEX 2016 Rd. 2 (No. 50-Nick Martin) ATL 2016 Rd. 2 (No. 52-Deion Jones)
2016 Rd. 6 (No. 195)
April 29 TB 2016 Rd. 2 (No. 59-Roberto Aguayo) KC 2016 Rd. 3 (No. 74-KeiVarae Russell)
2016 Rd. 4 (No. 106)
April 29 NO 2016 Rd. 2 (No. 61-Kamalei Correa) NE 2016 Rd. 3 (No. 78-Joe Thuney)
2016 Rd. 4 (No. 112)
April 29 CAR 2016 Rd. 3 (No. 77-Daryl Worley)
2016 Rd. 5 (No. 141)
CLE 2016 Rd. 3 (No. 93-Cody Kessler)
2016 Rd. 4 (No. 129)
2016 Rd. 5 (No. 168)
April 29 MIA 2016 Rd. 3 (No. 86-Leontee Carroo) MIN 2016 Rd. 6 (No. 186)
2017 Rd. 3
2017 Rd. 4
April 28 TEN 2016 Rd. 1 (#8-Jack Conklin)
2016 Rd. 6 (#176)
CLE 2016 Rd. 1 (#15-Corey Coleman)
2016 Rd. 3 (#76-Shon Coleman)
2017 Rd. 2
April 28 CHI 2016 Rd. 1 (#9-Leonard Floyd) TB 2016 Rd. 1 (#11-Vernon Hargreaves)
2016 Rd. 4 (#106)
April 28 HOU 2016 Rd. 1 (#21-Will Fuller) WAS 2016 Rd. 1 (#22-Josh Doctson)
2017 Rd. 6
April 28 DEN 2016 Rd. 1 (#26-Paxton Lynch) SEA 2016 Rd. 1 (#31-Germain Ifedi)
2016 Rd. 3 (#94-Nick Vannett)
April 28 SF 2016 Rd. 1 (#28 – Joshua Garnett) KC 2016 Rd. 2 (No. 37-Chris Jones)
2016 Rd. 4 (No. 105)
2016 Rd. 6 (No. 178)
April 20 CLE 2016 Rd. 1 (#8-Traded)
2016 Rd. 3 (#77-Traded)
2016 Rd. 4 (#100)
2017 Rd. 1
2018 Rd. 2
PHI 2016 Rd. 1 (#2-Carson Wentz)
2017 Rd. 4
April 14 TEN  2016 Rd. 1 (No. 15-Traded)
2016 Rd. 2 (No. 43-Austin Johnson)
2016 Rd. 2 (No. 45-Derrick Henry)
2016 Rd. 3 (No. 76-Traded)
2017 Rd. 1
2017 Rd. 3
LAR 2016 Rd. 1 (#1-Jared Goff)
2016 Rd. 4 (#113)
2016 Rd. 6 (#177)
April 9 DEN Ryan Clady
2016 Rd. 7
NYJ 2016 Rd. 5 (#204)
March 16 CHI 2016 Rd. 4 (#127) NE Martellus Bennett
2016 Rd. 6 (#204)
March 15 ARI Chandler Jones NE Jonathan Cooper
2016 Rd. 2 (#61-Traded)
March 11 DEN Mark Sanchez PHI 2017 conditional Rd. 7
March 9 PHI 2016 Rd. 1 (#8-Traded) MIA Byron Maxwell
Kiko Alonso
2016 Rd. 1 (#13-Laremy Tunsil)
March 9 PHI 2016 Rd. 4 (#100) TEN DeMarco Murray
2016 Rd. 4 (#113)

 

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2 minutes ago, Paa Langfart said:

I guess there is a possibility G man could trade up to the 4th ?  Unlikely but it is possible

Sure is the Browns still have 3 4th rounders.  Give them their 5th back and our 7th for one of their 4ths.  Get Cash.

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Best prospects still available after third round of 2016 NFL draft ..

Quarterback

1. Connor Cook, Michigan State ----------Gone
2. Dak Prescott, Mississippi State.......gone
3. Vernon Adams, Oregon
4. Cardale Jones, Ohio State,,,,,,,,gone
5. Kevin Hogan, Stanford....gone

Running back

1. Kenneth Dixon, Louisiana Tech.....gone
2. Jordan Howard, Indiana..........Gone
3. Alex Collins, Arkansas...gone
4. Paul Perkins, UCLA......gone
5. Devontae Booker, Utah......gone


Wide receiver

1. Rashard Higgins, Colorado State.gone
2. Malcolm Mitchell, Georgia..........gone
3. Pharoh Cooper, South Carolina..........gone ;(
4. Tajae Sharpe, UMass....gone
5. Aaron Burbridge, Michigan State


Offensive tackles

1. Kyle Murphy, Stanford
2. Joe Dahl, Washington State.....gone
3. Jerald Hawkins, LSU.................gone
4. Joe Haeg, North Dakota State.........gone
5. Spencer Drango, Baylor......gone


Guards/centers

1. Christian Westerman, Arizona State
2. Connor McGovern, Missouri............gone
3. Jack Allen, Michigan State
4. Austin Blythe, Iowa
5. Vadal Alexander, LSU

Tight ends

1. Jerell Adams, South Carolina,,,,,,,,gone
2. Henry Krieger-Coble, Iowa
3. Jake McGee, Florida
4. Thomas Duarte, UCLA......gone
5. Kyle Carter, Penn State


Defensive ends

1. Ronald Blair, Appalachian State.....gone
2. Matt Judon, Grand Valley State.......Gone
3. Charles Tapper, Oklahoma-----------gone
4. Jason Fanaika, Utah
5. Dean Lowry, Northwestern........gone

Linebackers

1. Blake Martinez, Stanford........gone
2. Joe Schobert, Wisconsin
3. Kentrell Brothers, Missouri.....gone
4. Antonio Morrison, Florida,,,,,,,,,,gone


Cornerbacks

1. Jalen Mills, LSU
2. Kevin Peterson, Oklahoma State
3. Harlan Miller, Southeast Louisiana.....gone
4. Maurice Canady, Virginia....gone
5. Deiondre’ Hall, Northern Iowa..........gone


Safeties

1. Jeremy Cash, Duke
2. Miles Killebrew, Southern Utah--------gone
3. Tyvis Powell, Ohio State
4. K.J. Dillon, West Virginia..gone
5. Jayron Kearse, Clemson...gone
 

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