KK Short - Vernon Butler - Star Lotulelei - Kony Ealy

[Toker Smurf]

I wonder if this pick helps at all with KK's contract negotiations? It reduces his leverage.

[Cyberjag]

[Jeremy Igo]

3 hours ago, London Loves Luke said:

To be honest with you i really don't like the idea of Short spending a lot of time at DE when he is so good as a 1 gap.

He single handedly won the Texans game last year from the DE position. 

[TheRumGone]

40 minutes ago, CRA said:

I think most get that.  

But our lines don't look very strong at OT or DE at the moment. 

But yeah, have great DT depth and that has advantages.  Still doesn't mean DE isn't an issue 

Who did you want to see us snag there at 30?

[London Loves Luke]

3 minutes ago, Jeremy Igo said:

He single handedly won the Texans game last year from the DE position. 

Yeh and he absolutely wrecked face against Seattle, Philadelphia and Indy from the DT position. I'm not saying he can't be a great DE, just think he's already an incredible DT at his current weight/strength. 

[Nate Dogg]

34 minutes ago, London Loves Luke said:

But from a money term (which I'm sure Gman may be thinking about) imagine if you can sign Short at DT money long term and he pans out at DE? That would be incredible value given the current DE market. 

Not sure what you mean here. Don't 4-3 DTs cost a lot more than 4-3 DEs? He would probably draw offers in the 80-90 mil range as a DT, but as a DE it would only be 50-60 mil.

[Jeremy Igo]

3 hours ago, London Loves Luke said:

Yeh and he absolutely wrecked face against Seattle, Philadelphia and Indy from the DT position. I'm not saying he can't be a great DE, just think he's already an incredible DT at his current weight/strength. 

I am saying putting him in at DE for a play or two a game really throws a curve ball against the offensive tackles who settled in against the DE's. 

[London Loves Luke]

1 minute ago, Jeremy Igo said:

I am saying putting him in at DE for a play or two a game really throws a curve ball against the offensive tackles who settled in against the DE's. 

That's a fair point. I know we say everytime we draft a DT or LB but what are the chances we line up some 3-4 looks too?

It looks like some of the DEs that are on the roster at the moment are slightly lighter than Ealy and CJ, 

Could we see something like : 

              Butler/ealy-star-short/cj

CJ/delaire/cox                        TD/Shaq/Addison 

We wouldn't need to rush 5 but would could line up wider and get QBs thinking. 

[CRA]

14 minutes ago, TheRumGone said:

Who did you want to see us snag there at 30?

Couple DEs were there.  I would have taken one of the two.  Ogbah or Dodd. 

[London Loves Luke]

5 minutes ago, Nate Dogg said:

Not sure what you mean here. Don't 4-3 DTs cost a lot more than 4-3 DEs? He would probably draw offers in the 80-90 mil range as a DT, but as a DE it would only be 50-60 mil.

Got me thinking here, for some reason my mind skipped over the fact Suh and Jackson have been paid 100m contracts the last two years. It will be interesting to see what happens when its time to sign KK, It may be the Norman effect but I feel like this move is in anticipation instead of addition.  

[Tarheels23]

Every time KK has lined up at DE it's been out of necessity, so no I'm not looking forward to it cause it probably means someone has gotten injured. 

[hepcat]

They've gig Delaire and Addison as the speed rushers but I still wouldn't complain if they got another pass rusher.  Lot of directions the Panthers can go 

[pantherclaw]

Regardless oh who lines at the ends positions, they should be able to thrive more consistently with the fresh talent at the tackles. 

Those crying about our pass rush, should be jumping for joy - seriously.

[TheRumGone]

51 minutes ago, CRA said:

Couple DEs were there.  I would have taken one of the two.  Ogbah or Dodd. 

Check out fitz's thread. It's interesting