The DE Position

[Mr. Scot]

1 hour ago, CRA said:

Everyone drafts with their own basis of bias, preference and need.

Gentlemen does too.  

His entire hogmolly pledge from day one shows he has a bias/slant that influences who he picks

again, I don't dislike Dave or his pick.  Dave still has time to make everything right....but given he has gone overboard at DT he has some extra work IMO left before he gets the thumbs up on the pick 

Make everything right?

Remind me. How far did we get in the playoffs last year?

[section543]

Just like free agency, fans tend to focus on available talent without comparing to existing talent. These guys are good compared to THIS draft class, but many would not supplant guys on our roster, or at least not for some time. I believe Gman sees Butler getting significant pt next year. I think H. Henry fits that in this years class- best of thus bunch, but nothing special. Ogbah and Dodd may be in the same boat?

[CRA]

18 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Make everything right?

Remind me. How far did we get in the playoffs last year?

Cam still masks issues on O.   They are still issues and we will be better when we address them

and we aren't the same team as last year.  We had All Pro play in the secondary.   We don't now.  That influenced more than people want to admit.   So we need to get better on D to be where we were at.  A KK sub doesn't make up that ground IMO.

 

 

[CRA]

7 minutes ago, section543 said:

Just like free agency, fans tend to focus on available talent without comparing to existing talent. These guys are good compared to THIS draft class, but many would not supplant guys on our roster, or at least not for some time. I believe Gman sees Butler getting significant pt next year. I think H. Henry fits that in this years class- best of thus bunch, but nothing special. Ogbah and Dodd may be in the same boat?

So if he gets significant playing time...KK Short gets significant time on the bench?

[Mr. Scot]

6 minutes ago, CRA said:

Cam still masks issues on O.   They are still issues and we will be better when we address them

and we aren't the same team as last year.  We had All Pro play in the secondary.   We don't now.  That influenced more than people want to admit.   So we need to get better on D to be where we were at.  A KK sub doesn't make up that ground IMO.

Again, why does nobody seem to remember our late game defensive collapses last season?

We did just get better on defense. Strong DL rotation is what made the Cowboy defense of the 90s so dominating.

[section543]

1 hour ago, CRA said:

So if he gets significant playing time...KK Short gets significant time on the bench?

Yup. And while catches his breath, we have quality in the game..

[MadHatter]

1 hour ago, CRA said:

So if he gets significant playing time...KK Short gets significant time on the bench?

Short was in on 65% of the snaps last season...DT's do NOT play 90%+ of snaps.  Plenty of snaps to go around and a rotation at DT is a VERY powerful weapon.

[MadHatter]

1 hour ago, Mr. Scot said:

Again, why does nobody seem to remember our late game defensive collapses last season?

We did just get better on defense. Strong DL rotation is what made the Cowboy defense of the 90s so dominating.

Exactly....we were getting NO push in the middle late in those games because KK was gassed.  This season....not so much.

[SupercaMVP]

1 hour ago, CRA said:

Cam still masks issues on O.   They are still issues and we will be better when we address them

and we aren't the same team as last year.  We had All Pro play in the secondary.   We don't now.  That influenced more than people want to admit.   So we need to get better on D to be where we were at.  A KK sub doesn't make up that ground IMO.

 

 

You don't seem to realize that Gettleman and Rivera are STOKED to have this guy and having an elite pass rush can mask not having a Josh Norman type CB. You understand now?

[CRA]

1 hour ago, Mr. Scot said:

Again, why does nobody seem to remember our late game defensive collapses last season?

We did just get better on defense. Strong DL rotation is what made the Cowboy defense of the 90s so dominating.

I remember the 2nd half of the season it was almost like we played with no DEs on the field. They didn't literally nothing most games down the stretch.

DT play wasn't what was wrong down the stretch.  It was the fact the DTs were the only ones stepping up

[CRA]

17 minutes ago, SupercaMVP said:

You don't seem to realize that Gettleman and Rivera are STOKED to have this guy and having an elite pass rush can mask not having a Josh Norman type CB. You understand now?

We had elite DT play last year.  This doesn't change that.  Even with elite DT play our DE struggled.  Still need DE talent....last year showed that m

like I said, Dave has time to fix that and everything will be good 

[the butch]

More rounds to go and KK played DE for us a fair amount last year.  Back away from the ledge.