Which free agent corner do we bring in??

[imminent rogaine]

55 minutes ago, Zaximus said:

You guys are in for a world of hurt.  Losing Norman hurts many positions.  Our safeties aren't the best, Coleman gets INTs but gets regularly burned.  Now he has to cover both sides (because people chose not to pass to Norman's guy).   We're going to be burned pretty bad back there, unless Boston comes in and is amazing or we get lucky in the draft.  Whatever CB comes in is going to be 50% as good as Norman as well.  We also now need the Dline to be better than they were.  Their sacks last year were COVERAGE sacks, and now that Norman is gone, the QB's have a lot more places to throw.

There are a lot of variables that have to go right for this to make sense.   Maybe DG is magic?  I doubt it.   This is going to be another Chandler/Bell situation I'm afraid.  I hope I'm 100% wrong though.

I think people are overrating our pass-rush. KK is the only elite pass rusher we have. Ealy and CJ showed flashes late so hopefully Ealy proves that he is the guy we saw in the SB and CJ shows that he is back from injury. If those things don't happen, we don't the pass rush we need. We already rely on blitzes too often and having a weaker secondary surly doesn't make me feel warm and fuzzy about blitzing often.

The team we lost to in the SB showed what happens when you pair an elite front 7 with an elite secondary. We are going to roll with two nickel-cbs and maybe an over-the-hill Cason-type free agent. I don't know much about the CBs in the draft but unless we strike gold, we will be overmatched in at least half of our games next year.

A list of WRs that we will not shut down next year:

D. Thomas/Sanders

Julio x2

Evans x2

John Brown/M.Floyd

A. Cooper

J. Kearse (assuming Bene handles Baldwin)

 

 

[brandon_87]

We will probably trade a late round pick for someone, nobody on the free agent market looks like a for for our D

[KB_fan]

Here are the free agent CBs available as listed at PFF, and also at Spotrac:

From PFF

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2016/01/11/pro-2016-free-agency-tracker/

Player                    grade   pos      age   team             snaps     status

Dax Swanson	60	CB	25	Dolphins	0	CUT
Antonio Cromartie	46.5	CB	32	Jets	916	CUT
Leonard Johnson	44.7	CB	26	Patriots	160	CUT

Leon Hall	78.4	CB	31	Bengals	735	UFA
Charles Tillman	68.3	CB	35	Panthers	723	UFA
Cortland Finnegan	67.5	CB	32	Panthers	324	UFA
Cassius Vaughn	66.4	CB	28	Chargers	44	UFA
Alan Ball	60.6	CB	31	Bears	255	UFA
Brandon Harris	60	CB	26	Titans	0	UFA
Tarell Brown	57.2	CB	31	Patriots	163	UFA
Phillip Adams	56.6	CB	28	Falcons	435	UFA
Jerraud Powers	49.5	CB	29	Cardinals	935	UFA
Jayron Hosley	47	CB	25	Giants	539	UFA
Josh Wilson	45.2	CB	31	Lions	284	UFA
Mike Jenkins	44.4	CB	31	Buccaneers	342	UFA
Cary Williams	44.1	CB	31	Redskins	645	UFA
Trumaine McBride	43.8	CB	30	Giants	345	UFA
Chris Owens	39.6	CB	29	Saints	13	UFA
Cortez Allen	30.2	CB	27	Steelers	32	UFA

 

From Spotrac:

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/all/cornerback/available/

 

Leon Hall	CB	31	CIN
Antonio Cromartie	CB	32	NYJ
Cortez Allen	CB	27	PIT
Prince Amukamara	CB	26	NYG
Jerraud Powers	CB	28	ARI
Leodis McKelvin	CB	30	BUF
Alan Ball	CB	31	CHI
Tarell Brown	CB	31	NE
Josh Norman	CB	28	CAR
Trumaine McBride	CB	30	NYG
Charles Tillman	CB	35	CAR
Mike Jenkins	CB	31	TB
Jayron Hosley	CB	25	NYG
Josh Wilson	CB	31	DET
Deshawn Shead	FS	27	SEA
Marcus Cooper	CB	26	KC
Neiko Thorpe	CB	26	OAK
Phillip Adams	CB	27	ATL
Steven Terrell	CB	25	SEA
Cam Thomas	CB	29	BUF
Brandon Harris	CB	26	TEN
Mohammed Seisay	CB	25	SEA
Brandon King	FS	22	NE
Travis Howard	CB	26	ATL
Christopher Owens	CB	29	NO
Cortland Finnegan	CB	32	CAR
Leonard Johnson	CB	26	NE
Cassius Vaughn	CB	28	SD
Brandian Ross	CB	26	SD
Dax Swanson	SS	26	MIA
Cary Williams	CB	31	WAS

 

 

[AceMan]

Dislike all those options...

And spotrac needs to update their FA CB list.

[L-TownCat]

17 hours ago, chknwing said:

dont forget about boykin

Everyone has forgotten about him.  

Bene, (FA/Rookie) Boykin.  Not bad at all.

[RumHam]

You guys can hide and downplay this as much as you want, this is now a serious issue with no viable replacement. Even if for some strange ass reason we get Ramsey, he'd have to develop. Norman IS shut down. I don't care what you think about his ego. It also wasn't just one season. He's been lights out since given the opportunity to start. Maybe it'll be like CJ and he will test the waters and come back. I've never heard of a rescinded franchise deal but just b/c he wanted to hold out doesn't mean you should cut the player. I believe in Gettleman, but i'm still irked over Smitty.

[panthers55]

4 hours ago, CoastalCat said:

Already signed Boykin. That's probably it until post-draft.

Gettleman has a history of either signing vets so he can go BPA or he thinks the answer is already on the roster.  I heard that Josh fired his agent so maybe he knows something about Josh we dont and thinks they are not over yet.  I dont really know..  This really isnt like Benjamin who got hurt in the preseason and we didnt have the money or that many folks to choose from.  He surely wont panic and just pick up folks but there are a few guys still out there who would be good options.  Boykin has said he really is most comfortable in the slot and while he can play outside does much better in the slot so I dont see him as the answer.

[CoastalCat]

6 minutes ago, panthers55 said:

Gettleman has a history of either signing vets so he can go BPA or he thinks the answer is already on the roster.  I heard that Josh fired his agent so maybe he knows something about Josh we dont and thinks they are not over yet.  I dont really know..  This really isnt like Benjamin who got hurt in the preseason and we didnt have the money or that many folks to choose from.  He surely wont panic and just pick up folks but there are a few guys still out there who would be good options.  Boykin has said he really is most comfortable in the slot and while he can play outside does much better in the slot so I dont see him as the answer.

True, but Bene was supposed to be our slot guy too. Poo happens. If anything, I predict that anyone that we bring in prior to, or even right after the draft will be a depth signing. A Robert McClain, if you will(you probably won't). 

[Panthro]

My guess...Josh Norman

[CoastalCat]

2 hours ago, RumHam said:

You guys can hide and downplay this as much as you want, this is now a serious issue with no viable replacement. Even if for some strange ass reason we get Ramsey, he'd have to develop. Norman IS shut down. I don't care what you think about his ego. It also wasn't just one season. He's been lights out since given the opportunity to start. Maybe it'll be like CJ and he will test the waters and come back. I've never heard of a rescinded franchise deal but just b/c he wanted to hold out doesn't mean you should cut the player. I believe in Gettleman, but i'm still irked over Smitty.

He got the opportunity to start in 2013. We benched him. He played 7 games. Step down off the ledge. We went 12-4 with a completely different secondary AND receiving corp. We're built from the inside out. We CANNOT spend 10% of the cap on one CB. CALM DOWN!

[Ivan The Awesome]

With all those available.. I think I rather draft a couple of corners instead of signing one of these guys. 

[miko dawg]

http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/mock-draft-60-eagles-trade-shakes-up-first/ar-BBs48nW?li=BBnbfcL

30. Carolina Panthers – William Jackson III, CB, Houston: Goodbye, Josh Norman. Hello, Jackson, who's big enough to give sizable WRs Julio Jones and Mike Evans problems in the NFC South.

 

[shaqattaq]

7 hours ago, Shocker said:

Cromartie?  Stop gap but he's still like 3-4 years younger than Peanut was, plus he knows Ron.  That assumes Ron likes him.

He's made his money, but no ring! I could definitely see him taking a team-friendly deal like Tillman and Allen just to get a final run for SB51. 

[juliosantos]

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