Panthers rescind Norman's franchise tag...

[Montsta]

1 minute ago, TheRed said:

Not sure why you singled out my post, but I'm not in sky is falling mode or anything absurd like that.

I think it's in the middle. Way too early to tell how this will impact us, but I'm not going to bury my head in the sand and pretend to know we will be just as good in the secondary or better until the next several months have played out. We've seen many highs and lows as Panthers fans, and if it has taught me anything, what you think might happen does not always play out that way. I'm just gonna let it ride.

I was just having a conversation with you. Best way to do that is by quote. Wasn't directed at you in any negative way or implying anything about your stance on the matter one way or the other. 

[TheSpecialJuan]

Josh Norman - DB - Free Agent

Citing "team and league sources," WFNZ Charlotte's Bill Voth reports the Panthers rescinded CB Josh Norman's franchise tag because a long-term deal "wasn't getting done," they anticipated him becoming a distraction during a forthcoming holdout, and Carolina wants to spend big to retain other players.

Atop the list of "other players" are DTs Kawann Short and Star Lotulelei. Short is entering a contract year, while Lotulelei is signed for two more years. Norman was believed to be weighing a potentially lengthy holdout, and was apparently unwilling to sign his franchise tender, preventing a trade. Per Voth, the Panthers were offering Norman $11 million per year, but he wanted $15 to $16 million annually. Carolina can now recoup a 2017 third-round compensatory draft pick if Norman signs a big deal elsewhere. (He will.)

[TheRed]

4 minutes ago, Montsta said:

I was just having a conversation with you. Best way to do that is by quote. Wasn't directed at you in any negative way or implying anything about your stance on the matter one way or the other. 

Gotcha, no worries. Figured I would just make it clear for any potential derpers out there.

Norman, or no Norman. I just want some playmaking ability in the secondary.

[Cpt slay a ho]

Again Last 3 Super Bowls winners had talent in the secondary. I hope there's a plan to get us another playmaker if Jno isn't coming back 

[TheMaulClaw]

Truth is. Josh is a glorified system player. Didn't snag a single pick after week 4 or 5 and he can't guard Julio. Good player....not nearly worth what he thinks.

[Montsta]

Just now, TheRed said:

Gotcha, no worries. Figured I would just make it clear for any potential derpers out there.

Norman, or no Norman. I just want some playmaking ability in the secondary.

I think a healthy Benwikere and Boykin will be more than suitable for our defensive system. 

Will they be Norman good? Of course not that would be silly.

But I think we could do a hell of a lot worse at starting corner. 

[Montsta]

4 minutes ago, Cpt slay a ho said:

Again Last 3 Super Bowls winners had talent in the secondary. I hope there's a plan to get us another playmaker if Jno isn't coming back 

The Broncos beat us in the super bowl because Von Miller stuck his cock in Mike Remmers ass. 

The secondary had very little to do with anything. 

[JawnyBlaze]

8 minutes ago, TheSpecialJuan said:

Josh Norman - DB - Free Agent

Citing "team and league sources," WFNZ Charlotte's Bill Voth reports the Panthers rescinded CB Josh Norman's franchise tag because a long-term deal "wasn't getting done," they anticipated him becoming a distraction during a forthcoming holdout, and Carolina wants to spend big to retain other players.

Atop the list of "other players" are DTs Kawann Short and Star Lotulelei. Short is entering a contract year, while Lotulelei is signed for two more years. Norman was believed to be weighing a potentially lengthy holdout, and was apparently unwilling to sign his franchise tender, preventing a trade. Per Voth, the Panthers were offering Norman $11 million per year, but he wanted $15 to $16 million annually. Carolina can now recoup a 2017 third-round compensatory draft pick if Norman signs a big deal elsewhere. (He will.)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

First of all, I take all these "team and league sources" reports with less than a grain of salt.  But if they are true, the first bolded part is BS.  Josh wasn't going to hold out and become a distraction.  He wasn't going to voluntary minicamps, he may not have even gone to training camp, but he wasn't going to hold out into the regular season like Kam Chancellor.  He's said a number of times that when it's time to suit up and play he was going to suit up and play.

The second bolded part, if true, is not negotiating in good faith by Gettleman.  There's no way Norman was ever going to accept significantly less than what that scrub swindled out of NYG.

[JawnyBlaze]

i have no clue what happened with the formatting in my above post

[TheRed]

2 minutes ago, Montsta said:

But I think we could do a hell of a lot worse at starting corner. 

*shudder*

Yes.

I'd rather just stop there, and not ruin my appetite. Bene... save us!

[ickmule]

25 minutes ago, Don137 said:

I would have thought such a move would have been better after the draft.  DG must have a back up plan.

DG knows talent and the value of that talent. He obviously thought there was too much of a gap between what he thought of JNo's value versus JNo's agent.

I think JNo is an very good DB but the system and players in the system made him look much better. He will get his coin on some non-playoff team. DG will pay his own what they are worth and not more. DG wants guys that will want to win and not just want the coin. I love JNo but he was more interested in the pay day than compete for a championship.

Totally correct. The staff knows these players much better than all of these clowns on here proclaiming Josh to be top 5 talent. I'm betting he goes somewhere with a different scheme and he blows. He may make the money he wants, but he will never sniff another Super Bowl. 

25 minutes ago, Don137 said:

 

 

[Ship]

josh holding out in training camp is just as bad as missing games.

[JawnyBlaze]

3 minutes ago, TheMaulClaw said:

Truth is. Josh is a glorified system player. Didn't snag a single pick after week 4 or 5 and he can't guard Julio. Good player....not nearly worth what he thinks.

Except he can and has guarded Julio.  Shut him down all but one game against him.  And he stopped snagging picks because teams all but stopped throwing in his direction.

Poor attempt.  1/10.

[TheRed]

1 minute ago, ickmule said:

Totally correct. The staff knows these players much better than all of these clowns on here proclaiming Josh to be top 5 talent. I'm betting he goes somewhere with a different scheme and he blows. He may make the money he wants, but he will never sniff another Super Bowl. 

 

Have you ever stopped, and read your gameday posts?

Might want to ease up on the critique of others.