Let's get it out of the way---It's a Derrick Henry poll

[Dilla]

20 minutes ago, rodeo said:

Do I actively want him and would I be cool with him are different questions. This asked if I'd be cool with him, and I would if DG is. But he wouldn't be my first choice depending on who is on the board.

Exactly. I voted yes under this logic.

Would I be "cool" with Henry at 30? Sure.

Can I envisioned him being a fan favorite here? Yeah.

Is Henry in my personal top 5 of players I want that I think will possibly be available at 30? Nah.

Henry would probably garner a shrug and an "eh" from me should it happen.

 

[GoobyPls]

Has Henry ever played in a read option running game? Most big backs don't have the greatest burst and need space to get their momentum going. He doesn't seem like the ideal fit for our offense

 

And whatever happen to the CAP bandwagon? There were dozens of thread if Cap even had a 20 yards run, now all of sudden he's not even brought up

[Malt Liquor]

Hell yeah I wouldn't have no problem. He is the same size as a defensive end with extraordinary running skills. He lacks blocking skills but that came be taught. If he is available at the 30th pick even a dummy would have to gamble on him based on the Panthers situation. 

[Rags]

2 hours ago, Dilla said:

Exactly. I voted yes under this logic.

Would I be "cool" with Henry at 30? Sure.

Can I envisioned him being a fan favorite here? Yeah.

Is Henry in my personal top 5 of players I want that I think will possibly be available at 30? Nah.

Henry would probably garner a shrug and an "eh" from me should it happen.

 

I guess this actively sums up how I'd feel. I don't really think he'll be a superstar and tbh I think he's gonna really be out of the league/forgotten by the time he's 27/28 because lol fug Nick Saban and how he conditions his players.

 

But whatever. I'll trust Getts. Unless someone is on the board like Dodd, Lawson, Ogbah or Coleman. Then I'd be confused/miffed.

[Rags]

43 minutes ago, Malt Liquor said:

 He is the same size as a defensive end with extraordinary running skills. He lacks blocking skills-

I'm gonna assume you've only watched highlights of him and nothing else.

 

His lack of running skills (cutting, agility, trucking, etc) and his amazing blitz pickup has been often stated about him.

[DaveThePanther2008]

Thank god I haven't lost any sleep over this topic.  

Eddie Lacy when we was fit really was as good as they get. 

Henry makes him look like he plays in little league.    I don't think Henry is going to be one of those backs that is going to tap dance to find a hole.   He is going to hit what he can and make things happen.

What really intrigues me about him is playing with Cam.  You put massive pressure on a defense with those two beast in the backfield.   Defenses are going to have fits wherever he plays but more so with us.

I voted yes.

 

[Rags]

This is a serious question, not trying to start poo, or anything like that. I'd like some real answers

For those.completely on the Henry bandwagon, what is it you like about h? His measurables? Because I see a lot of people saying he's going to give defensive coordinators fits ajf be a nightmare with Can, etc. 

But...he's not at all a power back. Think less Frank Gore and more Jamal Charles...just not as fast and no where near as agile. His strength lies in his amazing acceleration, which you'll notice if you ever watch him ever. He can pick up speed like a Porsche and its amazing to watch. If there's a hole he'll hit it and it's a good chunk of yards.

But he's honestly not much of a bulldozer. He can't make people miss with jukes or cuts. He's not gonna shed any tackles from people who know how to wrap up well and have good angles. And yeah, he's not gonna dance around but that's because his agility is nonexistnt. He's gotta have a good hole when he takes his first two steps because if not, it's a wrap.

 

I think he's gonna be boom or bust. He's a guy that has to go to the right team and the right scheme. And to be completely honest, I'm not sure that's us.

[Jon Snow]

I neither like or dislike Henry.  I'm sort of indifferent to the pick if it happens.  But I'm leaning toward this being a smokescreen.  Big Dave loves his hog mollies so I predict he will have more than a few high on his board.  It wouldn't surprise me at all if he goes defense in the first and offense in the second.  I also could see a run on defensive players in the first causing some really tempting TD scorers to fall in our lap.  Either way we get a couple of contributors in rounds 1 and 2, you can take that to the bank.

[CarolinaJami']

10 minutes ago, Rags said:

This is a serious question, not trying to start poo, or anything like that. I'd like some real answers

For those.completely on the Henry bandwagon, what is it you like about h? His measurables? Because I see a lot of people saying he's going to give defensive coordinators fits ajf be a nightmare with Can, etc. 

But...he's not at all a power back. Think less Frank Gore and more Jamal Charles...just not as fast and no where near as agile. His strength lies in his amazing acceleration, which you'll notice if you ever watch him ever. He can pick up speed like a Porsche and its amazing to watch. If there's a hole he'll hit it and it's a good chunk of yards.

But he's honestly not much of a bulldozer. He can't make people miss with jukes or cuts. He's not gonna shed any tackles from people who know how to wrap up well and have good angles. And yeah, he's not gonna dance around but that's because his agility is nonexistnt. He's gotta have a good hole when he takes his first two steps because if not, it's a wrap.

 

I think he's gonna be boom or bust. He's a guy that has to go to the right team and the right scheme. And to be completely honest, I'm not sure that's us.

I mentioned this in another thread and it got no reaction but we have had the coach of the year 2 out of the past 3 seasons, which means our coaching staff has been top notch also. If Gettleman drafts him that tells me that he believes our coaches can teach him to do whatever we need him to do.  Just because he didn't show a particular skill in college doesn't mean that he can't learn to do it. 

[stirs]

Would not understand the D Henry pick.  Don't think he will be nearly as dominant in the NFL and would not be smart as a platoon guy as your 1st round pick

[Rags]

19 minutes ago, CarolinaJami' said:

I mentioned this in another thread and it got no reaction but we have had the coach of the year 2 out of the past 3 seasons, which means our coaching staff has been top notch also. If Gettleman drafts him that tells me that he believes our coaches can teach him to do whatever we need him to do.  Just because he didn't show a particular skill in college doesn't mean that he can't learn to do it. 

Yeah that's true for stuff like catching, blocking, route running, etc.

But there's intangibles and athleticism you can't teach. You can't really teach him to be more drastically agile for example. You can't coach a player out of his strengths qand force him to fit your scheme.

 

For example, last year Chip Kelly tried to force Murray to be an east-west runner. That's not his style.  That's not his scheme. 

And that's why I compare Henry to Murray. He's a north-south runner. Not powerful. Not at all agile. Not gonna make anyone miss ever. But if there's a hole he'll hit it hard. DeMarco can't fit in every scheme. And Henry won't either.

I'm not saying I don't trust our coaching squad, I'm saying I don't know if Henry fits us. 

[CarolinaJami']

2 minutes ago, Rags said:

Yeah that's true for stuff like catching, blocking, route running, etc.

But there's intangibles and athleticism you can't teach. You can't really teach him to be more drastically agile for example. You can't coach a player out of his strengths qand force him to fit your scheme.

 

For example, last year Chip Kelly tried to force Murray to be an east-west runner. That's not his style.  That's not his scheme. 

And that's why I compare Henry to Murray. He's a north-south runner. Not powerful. Not at all agile. Not gonna make anyone miss ever. But if there's a hole he'll hit it hard. DeMarco can't fit in every scheme. And Henry won't either.

I'm not saying I don't trust our coaching squad, I'm saying I don't know if Henry fits us. 

Fair enough. I think that if they do draft him then they probably have all of that in mind and will possibly make tweaks to what we do to fit his style. I will note I'm not screaming that we need Henry. I believe if they spend a draft pick on him, they have a plan. So I would not have a problem with him being the pick.

[Frank Hollywood]

I'd be uneasy with taking him in the 2nd round. Henry will NOT go in the first. He will most likely fizzle out in the pros. I can't wait till Thursday when all the shocked faces of those on the Henry bandwagon are left scratching their heads wondering "How can this be?"

 

Commence thy hate.

[bababoey]

I don't want Derrick Henry's poll or anyone elses for that matter.   That might keep some people from coming to my house but that's ok.