Derrick Henry Making Eddie Lacy Look Small

[DaveThePanther2008]

7 minutes ago, thefuzz said:

The short yardage thing is what I'm concerned with.  Without the help of a supremely talented offensive line, does Henry have the 1st step explosion to get that tough 1-1.5 yards when you need it?

 

A good offensive line will be more than sufficient.  Our line would be just fine.   I don't think you go 15-1 with a subpar O-Line.  I would love to see a backfield with Henry Stewart and Cam for short yardage.  IMO it wouldn't matter how bad your line is concerned.   That is a lot of firepower to try and stop on the ground and add play action and our trees at WR our third down conversion would be near the top in the NFL.

[Davidson Deac II]

16 hours ago, Jimmy said:

Stewart, Whitaker, CAP, Tolbert

Besides JStew which of these guys are better than Derrick Henry? Late round picks, a fullback...

Sure he played at Alabama...they use up their RBs in college blah blah blah. 

I would love to see this big summabitch in our backfield learning and splitting time with JStew. 

Maybe none of them, or maybe all of them.  No one knows for certain until they actually play a few downs on Sunday.  But the real question is not whether Henry can play well in the NFL, but if there are other players in the draft that would be a better pick for us than Henry, since we will likely have to use a first or second round pick to get him.  If we use a first round pick on Henry, he  eventually needs to be at least as good as Stewart.   

[thefuzz]

4 minutes ago, DaveThePanther2008 said:

A good offensive line will be more than sufficient.  Our line would be just fine.   I don't think you go 15-1 with a subpar O-Line.  I would love to see a backfield with Henry Stewart and Cam for short yardage.  IMO it wouldn't matter how bad your line is concerned.   That is a lot of firepower to try and stop on the ground and add play action and our trees at WR our third down conversion would be near the top in the NFL.

Alabama had the best O line in college last season, at least from what I saw.

We have a really good interior O line, and a sub par outside.  My question isn't about formations, it's about 1st step quickness, and does he have it?

That's what will make him worth of a 1st round pick.  Can he catch the ball, and can he pick up the tough yard when we need it most?

[Davidson Deac II]

2 minutes ago, thefuzz said:

Alabama had the best O line in college last season, at least from what I saw.

We have a really good interior O line, and a sub par outside.  My question isn't about formations, it's about 1st step quickness, and does he have it?

That's what will make him worth of a 1st round pick.  Can he catch the ball, and can he pick up the tough yard when we need it most?

First step quickness and/or the ability to take a hit from NFL defenders and keep going.  Stewart has lost a step the last couple of years, but has been an effective back for us because he can keep going after that first hit.  If Henry can do that, then he might be worth a pick.  That is the big if though. 

[thefuzz]

3 minutes ago, Davidson Deac II said:

First step quickness and/or the ability to take a hit from NFL defenders and keep going.  Stewart has lost a step the last couple of years, but has been an effective back for us because he can keep going after that first hit.  If Henry can do that, then he might be worth a pick.  That is the big if though. 

Agree 100%.  I'm not as concerned about lateral agility, although it would be nice.

Stew had everything, except for durability, but I can clearly see that he doesn't have that explosion any longer.

 

Also, can Henry catch out of the backfield?  Don't want a 1st rounder coming off the field on 3rd down.

[CWORS]

16 hours ago, Matthias said:

Henry doesn't need to lose any weight.  At 230 pounds, Bell ran a 4.60 in his combine performance.  At 247 pounds, Henry ran a 4.5.  Henry is explosive enough to carry his weight around.

I know Henry can carry his own as is but if he would drop 10-15 lbs would he be even more explosive as was the case with Bell...and Henry was 247 at the combine. If he would drop to the 230 as you listed he would be at an ideal weight to be the bell cow RB.

[OneBadCat]

I like Henry's ability I just feel like we need more speed on offense. Between RB and WR we need a homerun hitter. The thought of pummeling teams into submission is great though. And if in fact this is Stews last year with us then we need to find a replacement for him.

I'm a little concerned about Henry's height though. Those long legs are scary. But he looks like Stewart meets Deshaun Foster.

[Cpt slay a ho]

Would not be thrilled with rb as the pick, don't we have fozzy,Payne, and the undrafted weigher behind Stewart? 

Regardless the the pick I'll deal but I think you have to look at the NFC south and NFC as a whole when picking, De, Dt, Wr, Ot, Cb,S are all positions that would allow us to not only compete but maybe dominate our opponents going forward 

[CarolinaSock]

When did height become a positive attribute for a running back? He's only 12 pounds heavier than Stewart but almost a half foot taller. Not to mention looking at that picture he looks pretty top heavy while Stewart has tree trunk legs. It concerns me how well a tall long legged, long strided runner is going to do trying to squeeze out yards when there's little to no hole. Also curious as to how he'll do if he doesn't have that ten yard running start with the QB under center opposed to shotgun depth, with many carries starting as a slow jog till Cam decides to hand it off or keep it.

[Crazydounut]

Lacy looks like he lost 20 lbs from muscle deprivation. Not losing fat around the stomach area

[Soul Rebel]

I agree that he lacks first step quickness, but I do think we can disguise that a bit with our blocking style and misdirection with Cam.  If we can spring him free or get him to the second level, the true beauty of Henry's game will shine.  Nobody wants to face that guy coming at you with a head of steam behind him.  

Overall, Henry isn't a prototypical back and will need to be in the "right" system to flourish, but I don't see why Carolina can't be "that" system.  

It's weird, because Jonathan Williams is the back that I really want out of this draft, but I find myself defending Henry quite a bit.  Won't be mad if we draft Henry, but also won't be sad if we pass on him.  I honestly hope we come out with one of the Henry's in this draft.