Rams trade to Number 1

[TheSpecialJuan]

590 The Fan's Howard Balzer reports the Rams surrendered the package they did for the No. 1 pick because they believed the Titans were "ready to pull the trigger on a deal with the Eagles."

The Rams paid the iron price — picks No. 15, 43, 45 and 76, in addition to 2017 first- and third-rounders — to move up (and acquire two other picks), so there was clearly competition. The Eagles have been linked to the talks by multiple reporters. The question now is if the Eagles will move up to No. 2 if the Rams pass on Carson Wentz and take Jared Goff. The Birds are reportedly smitten with Wentz.

[TheSpecialJuan]

1 minute ago, TheSpecialJuan said:

590 The Fan's Howard Balzer reports the Rams surrendered the package they did for the No. 1 pick because they believed the Titans were "ready to pull the trigger on a deal with the Eagles."

The Rams paid the iron price — picks No. 15, 43, 45 and 76, in addition to 2017 first- and third-rounders — to move up (and acquire two other picks), so there was clearly competition. The Eagles have been linked to the talks by multiple reporters. The question now is if the Eagles will move up to No. 2 if the Rams pass on Carson Wentz and take Jared Goff. The Birds are reportedly smitten with Wentz.

This is what happens when desperation sets in.

[stirs]

Paxton Lynch moving on up!

[Woodie]

This actually isn't as bad a deal as many are making it out to be.  According to the trade value chart, they are within about 350 points or so.  This equates to losing a total value of a late 2nd round pick.  Not great, but not as horrible as it seems on the surface.  And when you've been a QB away for awhile now, you sometimes need to be bold to get to where you want to be. 

And if they truly believe Wentz or Goff can be legitimate franchise QB's, then this may actually be a good deal for them.  And to be honest with you, both seem to have the skill set to be very good.  Wentz probably just needs to sit a year because he will have a fairly steep learning curve.  And my biggest question with Goff is whether or not he can stand up to the pounding he'll get in the NFL.   

Bottom line, if whichever QB they take succeeds, and the Titans don't squander these picks, this could be one of those trades that was great for both teams.

[chknwing]

lol watching this interview with the rams coach etc talking about the trade. they say they dont know who they will take yet. they have a few players in mind.  Um GTFO.  You dont give up the fuging farm and not know wtf your gonna do.

[thefuzz]

23 hours ago, mcdougal said:

Cam Newton had more warts than either Goff or Wentz? Let me guess, Newton had more warts than Blaine Gabbert, Christian Ponder, and Jake Locker combined! Yes, there were more warts on Cam than Goff or Wentz.  But less than Ponder, Locker, or Gabbert, IMO.

The fact you think 2011 version of Cam Newton was more questionable than Goff or Wentz is good enough reason to ignore everything you post for the rest of history.  It's all about projecting, not ability.  Cam was huge, had a huge arm, and was durable.  What he didn't have was a lot of tape of him throwing into tight coverages, making his reads, and learning an NFL playbook.  Many of those questions were answered in private meetings with Hurney and RR....none that we were privy to.

Putting Goff to the side for a moment (Newton was an immensely better prospect than Goff) but what on God's earth makes Wentz a better pro prospect than Newton?  Newton had the most upside, but was in no way a "safe" pick, that's the difference.

Wentz has thrown 600 passes IN HIS ENTIRE COLLEGE CAREER. Wentz projects as a poor man's Ryan Tannehill at best. And of course, he did this at North Dakota State.  You do know that Cam only threw 292 passes in his entire college career right?

 

Cam was the pick, IMO it was the right one at the time, and in hindsight, was the best draft pick in our history outside of Smith.

There just wasn't much "tape" on Cam, and he did have some baggage, (that we now know was BS).  The interviews and the private workouts proved something that mane of us couldn't see, and the Panthers made the right call.

[Mr. Scot]

This year's top two QB choice reminds me of the year it was Heath Shuler vs Trent Dilfer.

[thefuzz]

4 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

This year's top two QB choice reminds me of the year it was Heath Shuler vs Trent Dilfer.

Yea, I don't love either of them, certainly wouldn't have given up what they did to move up.

 

That said, we are now spoiled, something we haven't been here in a very long time.

[Wundrbread33]

This just makes me smile knowing that we had the #1, during the year of Cam Newton.

 

Hell yeah.

[Bartin]

2 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

This year's top two QB choice reminds me of the year it was Heath Shuler vs Trent Dilfer.

I was thinking the Smith/Rodgers draft though Goff is more like Smith(tiny hands, slight frame) and Wentz is more like Rodgers(big arm, questions on mechanics) even though Wentz is the smaller school guy like Smith was and Goff is the big school guy like Rodgers(both even went to Cal).

[Razeyfingers]

Safest thing for Fischer to do here is go with a young QB that takes a long time to develop and if he fails he'll be easy to blame.

 

Coaching job safe yet again for another 3 years.

[Gazi]