Hardy interview w/Schefter, full interview on page 17

[Nick_81]

7 hours ago, Cpt slay a ho said:

but i'm glad some of you are stuck on convicting a guy that's legally not guilty

I really don't give two shits one way, or the other, but proclaiming the man "legally not guilty," is as much bullshit as the people spitting poo against him.  Nowhere in the history of this case, does any legal documentation proclaim him not guilty.

[csx]

9 minutes ago, Nick_81 said:

I really don't give two shits one way, or the other, but proclaiming the man "legally not guilty," is as much bullshit as the people spitting poo against him.  Nowhere in the history of this case, does any legal documentation proclaim him not guilty.

Yep and he was actually found guilty once. Dropping the charges  very different than being found not guilty by a jury.

[Crazydounut]

I don't want Hardy back

If he did do what people think he did. Which I don't think he did. Than he is a thug and doesn't deserve a spot on an NFL team. He is suited for jail.

If he isn't guilty of what people say he did. Than what? The media will be all over us for signing back a "thug". Because the case was put down, most people will side with the women. He would be great for the team out on the field. But in the locker room and in the media he would be a problem.

Either way I say we don't sign him. We won't anyways because Richardson is too classy of a man to bring back a guy who is suspected by many to have beat up a woman.

[Nick_81]

1 minute ago, Crazydounut said:

I don't want Hardy back

If he did do what people think he did. Which I don't think he did. Than he is a thug and doesn't deserve a spot on an NFL team. He is suited for jail.

If he isn't guilty of what people say he did. Than what? The media will be all over us for signing back a "thug". Because the case was put down, most people will side with the women. He would be great for the team out on the field. But in the locker room and in the media he would be a problem.

Either way I say we don't sign him. We won't anyways because Richardson is too classy of a man to bring back a guy who is suspected by many to have beat up a woman.

Even if everyone pushed the "woman beater" title to the side, and overlooked it, you'd still end up with a fuging psycho idiot on your team.  It amazes me, after what we witnessed with this team last season, that people want this moron in that locker room.

[ctrcat]

15 minutes ago, Crazydounut said:

I don't want Hardy back

If he did do what people think he did. Which I don't think he did. Than he is a thug and doesn't deserve a spot on an NFL team. He is suited for jail.

If he isn't guilty of what people say he did. Than what? The media will be all over us for signing back a "thug". Because the case was put down, most people will side with the women. He would be great for the team out on the field. But in the locker room and in the media he would be a problem.

Either way I say we don't sign him. We won't anyways because Richardson is too classy of a man to bring back a guy who is suspected by many to have beat up a woman.

He did go to jail.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/boxscore?gameId=400554266

Also, he wasn't a problem in that game.  We won.  And there he is in the stats sheet (the Bucs by the way were completely shut down if not for some prevent situations late).  And guess what?  It was after the incident and Becky Thorne Tin's ruling.

[ctrcat]

2 minutes ago, Nick_81 said:

Even if everyone pushed the "woman beater" title to the side, and overlooked it, you'd still end up with a fuging psycho idiot on your team.  It amazes me, after what we witnessed with this team last season, that people want this moron in that locker room.

We witnessed a 17-2 team that had zero reliable pass rush, and no every down defensive end in the stratosphere of Greg Hardy.

[Mr. Scot]

On 4/5/2016 at 7:28 PM, ctrcat said:

Anything redundant about Schefter himself backing Hardy?  Unreal the rest of the world has a different view than the guy that did the interview.  Everyone seemed to gloss over that particular post, as well as all others in this organization that vouch for the guy.

Yeah, about that...

Schefter admits it was a mistake to say Hardy's changed

[ctrcat]

12 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Yeah, about that...

Schefter admits it was a mistake to say Hardy's changed

He said it because he believes it.  All he said now is that he regrets saying it, not that he doesn't believe it.  Media backlash was more that what Schefter himself even believed.  I watched NFL Insiders Live and there was CLEAR tension/differences between the piranhas on set that were hell bent on their story and Schefter, the guy that actually did the interview.

[Nick_81]

24 minutes ago, ctrcat said:

We witnessed a 17-2 team that had zero reliable pass rush, and no every down defensive end in the stratosphere of Greg Hardy.

and you'd witness a locker room go to poo with that piece of garbage in it.  Fighting/fussing with coaches & players, never on time for meetings/practice.  Oh, by the way, tell me again how effective he was in the games he played last season.  What did he average... 0.5 sacks per game?  

[Mr. Scot]

3 minutes ago, ctrcat said:

He said it because he believes it.  All he said now is that he regrets saying it, not that he doesn't believe it.  Media backlash was more that what Schefter himself even believed.  I watched NFL Insiders Live and there was CLEAR tension/differences between the piranhas on set that were hell bent on their story and Schefter, the guy that actually did the interview.

That's a stretch.

Not as big a stretch as the Richardson conspiracy theory, but still a stretch.

[csx]

41 minutes ago, ctrcat said:

We witnessed a 17-2 team that had zero reliable pass rush, and no every down defensive end in the stratosphere of Greg Hardy.

5th in hurries, 6th in sacks

zero huh?

 

They are not bringing back Hardy. Maybe you should hire him.

[ctrcat]

2 minutes ago, csx said:

5th in hurries, 6th in sacks

zero huh?

 

They are not bringing back Hardy. Maybe you should hire him.

Sorry.  We didn't have consistent or reliable pressure from the DEFENSIVE END position.  KK Short does not count.

[ctrcat]

8 minutes ago, Nick_81 said:

and you'd witness a locker room go to poo with that piece of garbage in it.  Fighting/fussing with coaches & players, never on time for meetings/practice.  Oh, by the way, tell me again how effective he was in the games he played last season.  What did he average... 0.5 sacks per game?  

Why?  People are already saying we're gonna implode because Cam didn't dive on the football.  Cam and JNo fought last year.  89 fought everyone.  Did Hardy?  They have no clue.

[ctrcat]

14 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

That's a stretch.

Not as big a stretch as the Richardson conspiracy theory, but still a stretch.

I don't have to have a PhD in human behavior to know what I saw/heard on NFL Live and Dan Patrick from Schefter.  By that same token, I also can imagine how I might feel if I were JR under the same set of circumstances if my fellow owners made me look like a fool.  Doesn't mean he necessarily green lights Greg Hardy, but his give a damn meter in theory shouldn't have much left in the tank.