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Is it Imperative that we get a day-1 starter this draft?


TheNewStandard

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4 minutes ago, TheNewStandard said:

I'm not so hot on drafting a back unless he's high on our draft board and falls to us as a BPA pick. Fizzy showed flashes last year and CAP can't be discounted. Plus we have Tolbert and Wegher are entrenched on the 53-man roster.

I think our best shot at drafting a starter will come at Tre Boston and maybe Remmers positions, that's where I look to see the most competition.

also, I'm thinking Hill finally gets his chance to take Cotchery's spot, so I don't necessarily see is drafting a wideout unless he's BPA.

I agree in a more general sense about the Oline being a draft position for us, DG philosophically likes to grab one a year either in FA or the draft (or both).  I think Williams will be Remmers competition though, not a draft pick, DG sounded pretty confident Remmers would compete for the starting position when he gave his presser a week or so after the SB loss and was asked about Remmers getting blown up by Miller. Since Williams played on the right side it seems like he will be the competition there. But I definitely can see us drafting depth on the OL at any of the positions to cover injuries and also grooming someone to step in for Oher in case he isnt in our long term plans. Kalil is still playing at a high level but I would have a hard time if I were DG passing on the AL C Kelly if he is on the Board at 30.   

I really see DG looking at DE and DT to boost the pass rush but as deep as the draft is at that position he might wait until rd 2-3 to pull the trigger there.  IMO S will definitely get addressed in the draft, we dont have a lot of depth there.  

I am starting to buy into Igo's theory that the wildcard 1st round draft position might be at TE - we showed some interest in Jared Cook for a reason, and I think we could see Hunter Henry as the pick if he is on the board at 30.  Boosting the blocking and pass game with one pick would be phenomenal and he seems like he fits the bill on those fronts.

The staff seemed really high on Hill last year, hard to say what we have with him (and Norwood for that matter, they are bullish on him right now as well).  If he can stay healthy he should have a grip on the playbook by now, this is his year to shine or crash.  

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And I quoteth from the book of Gettleman: "We aren't looking for instant oatmeal."

Impact player? Yes. Day One starter? If he earns it.

Shaq wasn't a starter but he still made an impact. Special teams immediately got better, he added wrinkles to the defense, and was insurance for TD. We want to keep adding guys like that. We have built a core and we have depth. The goal now is to keep things going forward.

I only see two real holes on this team. Strong Safety and Punter. Strong Safety can be decided in camp and Punter is... I mean it's a fuging punter. Do we need more pass rush? Sure. But we aren't without guys that can produce.

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As far as starters go, I think that both the Henrys would be day one starters on most teams (Hunter, in particular), that's why I am thinking that either one of them may get a first round grade from DG, and somehow end up in a Panthers uni.

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We don't really need a day one starter, what we need is a high upside rookie who'll flourish in a year or two. If I had to predict the BPA/Gettleman board our 1st round pecking order is DE, DT, OT, S, WR, RB, TE. 

 

I wonder how quickly this board melts down if we take a DT or Derrick Henry?

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Given the limited starter turnover we had and the fact that the team is elite with respect to all other clubs I would expect to have 1-2 draft picks that are starter calibre and would probably start on a good number of squads and another 1-2 players that are rotational solid contributors on our team.  The plan should be to keep your core and to constantly reinvent/replenish it (e.g. Thomas Davis eventually retiring in 10 years or so and giving way to Shaq.)

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Not accounting for injury, only two spots, I could see a rookie starting would safety and WR, with safety the more likely.  Someone like Dodd could come and see lots of reps at DE, but doubtful to start in front of CJ or Ealy, unless Ealy were to end up in Doghouse.  If he is healthy Bene should have other CB spot sewed up

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30 minutes ago, Riverboat Ron said:

I wonder how quickly this board melts down if we take a DT or Derrick Henry?

I am going to go out on a limb and say that there wouldn't and won't be a Huddle meltdown this year. We all know the deal, and the key players have already been mentioned. 

I am not going to bet on it though.

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I don't think we're looking for a day one starter.  We're looking for a day one contributor that should be ready to start next year.  The end of the 1st is virtually a 2nd round pick, and as such, should be an eventual starter but give the team immediate value as a reserve. 

It's possible we could look at a TE such as Henry, but I doubt it.  Olsen will be the starter for the next few years, and any TE we bring in will primarily be used as a blocker that could occasionally catch a pass.  So, I don't see us using a 1st on a guy that should be a year one or, at worst, a year two starter.  Olsen and KB will get most of the intermediate attention from Cam, so we won't use a 2nd TE as a receiver enough to justify taking him in the 1st...at least not this year (but we could take one later, though).

 

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IMO, the most likely pick will come from either DE, speedy WR, SS, OL, or DT (in that order).  I know Gettleman's philosophy is BPA, but that comes with the caveat that most rankings are grouped, and Gettleman always seems to find a guy that is technically BPA, but also fills a specific need. 

DE - Unless someone like Dodd unexpectedly drops, I think could expect a guy such as Ogbah or Bullard to be the pick.  Both should be able to rotate this year, and take over opposite of Ealy next year. 

WR - We have our twin towers, but now need our long-term field stretcher, so a guy like Corey Coleman would be an ideal fit if he drops a bit.  I could even see a guy like Shepard, who many thought of as a 2nd rounder being the pick.  More and more, I'm seeing him listed among the potential late 1, early 2 potential picks.  I don't see another possession-type of receiver like Treadwell (even if he dropped) picked here, though.  We won't take a receiver just to take a receiver.  We'd only take one if he fits a particular need.

SS - I could really see Craven being the surprise pick.  I put little faith in reports of interest, but his skillset is a perfect fit for what we like to do on defense.  We love playmakers, and Cravens is clearly a top playmaker.  And his versatility would be a huge point of interest for both Rivera and McDermott. 

OL - I'm not sure if there will be anyone at 30 that we'd be comfortable counting on as an eventual LT starter (since I think Williams will lock down the RT spot this year).  That's probably one of the most difficult positions to evaluate nowadays.  The way college offenses play their tackles, there's as much hope as evaluation that goes into taking one early.  And Gettleman strikes me as the type that likes sure things early (at least as sure as you can get).

DT - I really don't see this as being the pick since it is likely that Star and Short will be here for the long haul (the way Gettleman talks about them, it's clear he has every intention of signing both to long-term deals).  The only way I see a DT picked here is if he has the skillset to move outside on occasion, or if he is a good pass rusher.  It would also probably be someone they have rated much higher than late 1.  However, since the expectation is that a 1st round pick will start within a year or two, I just don't see Gettleman using a 1st on depth. 

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