Reasons I cant trust Pitbulls

[Inimicus]

Lived with dogs my whole life.

Been around everything from TeaCup Poodles to Mastiffs and everything in between and I can say without reservation that Id sooner leave an infant in a room with a Pit/Saffordshire Bull dog than I would with a Chow 99 days out of 100.

Chows are without a doubt the most ill tempered unpredictable breed Ive ever dealt with.  But unlike Pits they are furry and cuddly and look like teddy bears.

Pits are quite simply the most discriminated against breed(s) of creatures on Gods Green Earth

[Kevin Greene]

5 minutes ago, Inimicus said:

Lived with dogs my whole life.

Been around everything from TeaCup Poodles to Mastiffs and everything in between and I can say without reservation that Id sooner leave an infant in a room with a Pit/Saffordshire Bull dog than I would with a Chow 99 days out of 100.

Chows are without a doubt the most ill tempered unpredictable breed Ive ever dealt with.  But unlike Pits they are furry and cuddly and look like teddy bears.

Pits are quite simply the most discriminated against breed(s) of creatures on Gods Green Earth

Always interests me when canine ownership and exposure to a few different breeds makes a person an expert on entire breeds. Have any links to articles where a pack of chows savagely attack and kill some poor little old lady and/or child?

[Kevin Greene]

48 minutes ago, frash.exe said:

If my Chorkie/Maltese was 80 pounds instead of 6, I would fear her.

temper of Sonny Corleone

They have the same intent. The difference is the result.

[Inimicus]

19 hours ago, Kevin Greene said:

Always interests me when canine ownership and exposure to a few different breeds makes a person an expert on entire breeds. Have any links to articles where a pack of chows savagely attack and kill some poor little old lady and/or child?

Always interests me when someone is in such a hurry to post a snarky response that the both fail to read and fail to understand a post.

Let me help you...

 

I posted what could be best characterized as an opinion or an anecdote.

I spoke of my experience.

I gave my opinion.

The only thing I stated that could be interpreted as me presenting fact is that Pits are the most discriminated breed on the planet and even that statement is akin to me saying that _______ is the best ______ in the universe.  A statement that illustrates the conviction of the opinion more than it attempts to assert the absolute subjective truth of the statement.

Whats even more interesting to me is your conclusion that Im basing that OPINION off of "canine ownership and exposure to a few different breeds".  For all you know Im a vet, or a certified canine trainer (Im neither) or a volunteer at a local animal shelter where I interact with more dogs of different breeds in a week than most people encounter in 10 years, or maybe I run a rescue where we pull dogs from local shelters and place them with foster and forever homes, or maybe we run an animal advocacy group that singlehandedly exposed what the NC Dept of Agriculture described as the most egregious cases of animal neglect and abuse they had ever encountered in a county operated shelter subsequently bringing about the largest fines the department ever handed out.

But I guess its more fun to be snarky...

[Kevin Greene]

Yep, now breathe......

[The Link]

On April 8, 2016 at 5:53 PM, Panthro said:

Um we bred them to their physical specs and yes aggression can be bred not just learned...it's not their fault. Pit Bulls are not a naturally occurring species. And yes I'm advocating the elimination of a breed of dog and doing so humanely. Thanks for inviting yourself into the discussion but you've been scienced.

I agree aggression can be bred, but it's a trait that is inherently part of every dog breed, left over from when we humans domesticated wild animals. No domestic dog is a "naturally occurring species". They were all carefully bred over hundreds of years. You think if we didn't do so you would find a golden retriever roaming the wild? You wouldn't.    

Any dog can snap at any time for any reason, so if you're advocating the eradication of one species because of the 'aggressive trait', then you have to do the same to every domestic dog breed; they all have it in them. If you raise them properly it won't be an issue. Thanks for trying, but you've been basic logiced. 

[R0CKnR0LLA]

Yeah any dog can snap at any time. They all have the 'aggressive trait' bred into them. Pitbulls, Yorkies. Basically the same really.

[Dex]

I'd sooner put down any one of you uneducated southern morons than my pit. She's never shown an iota of aggression and I've seen enough hate out of you bunch to last a lifetime. "Put down all of the humans with muscles and good physiques! They are all killers and aggressive!"

[The Link]

13 hours ago, R0CKnR0LLA said:

Yeah any dog can snap at any time. They all have the 'aggressive trait' bred into them. Pitbulls, Yorkies. Basically the same really.

I know Pitbulls who wouldn't harm a fly, because they were raised right. I also know a hyper-aggressive Cocker Spaniel who attacks all the other animals in the house.The trait remains in all dogs because of their ancestry, so in that case, yes. Pitbulls, Yorkies. Same thing. Quit being obtuse.

[Kevin Greene]

Bottom line, fortunately owners of dogs who attack people are being prosecuted and jailed.

http://www.dogsbite.org/blog-posts-criminal-trials.php

 

[Zaximus]

I mean of course any dog can attack.  The problem is, when it happens, it seems like it's always a pit-bull or some mix of it.   They breed has definitely been ruined.   Also, it's a status symbol so you have a ton of people getting them just to have a Pit and then not raising it correctly.  There are a ton of factors involved that has ruined this breed.   It's just a risk owning them, and they really do not do anything better than any other dogs, and are pretty ugly too.   I think 99% of the time people own them for a status symbol, I really do, and there is the issue.  

So yeah, any dog can be raised wrong and become a problem, but pit-bulls do more damage when they do and they do it more often.   I'm not sure how to fix the issue.

In my opinion any dog over 50 pounds should require a permit.  I think people should have to pay a fee and go to a class to learn how to take care of an animal like this.   I see people walking big dogs on those ex-tractable leashes, which is a HUGE screw up.   They need a strong 6-foot leash or 3-foot, but they don't understand this.   When you have a large dog in possession of someone that doesn't know what they are doing, it can be a weapon.    I have a 95-pound GSD and I couldn't imagine the damage she could do if she wasn't trained when we are out in public or run into people and their untrained dogs.

I think a permit could do wonders, and if you don't have one and you have a dog over this weight, you get fined.  And make it count.  It's easy to point fingers at people and the dogs, but to really do something about it requires EDUCATION.    The fees that the permit would cost (nothing crazy, like 50 bucks) could go to funding animal control (which is always under-staffed) and permit checkers.  

[Jase]

I don't think people realize just how ubiquitous pit bulls are, especially in the south. If you go to a shelter to adopt a dog, a good half of them are pits or pit mixes.

we've adopted two puppies from shelters in the last month. One that looks like a Black and Tan hound mix and one that looks like a golden retriever/yellow lab mix. We got the Black and Tan's Dna test back... 12.5% pit. Waiting on the golden's DNA test, but if I were a betting man, I'd bet on some pit ancestry as well.

[Zaximus]

Dang:

 

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/local/article71299502.html

 

 

[Panthro]

On 4/10/2016 at 10:13 AM, Dex said:

I'd sooner put down any one of you uneducated southern morons than my pit. She's never shown an iota of aggression and I've seen enough hate out of you bunch to last a lifetime. "Put down all of the humans with muscles and good physiques! They are all killers and aggressive!"

Ah see therein lays the issue. You would value your dog over a human life. I would put down your dog if it even looked at my kid. 

I  am all for letting them live out their lives as happy ole dogs but am for sterilizing the breed. What made you want a Pit over an Australian Shepard? 

PS I am orginally from up North, well educated, and a dog lover.