Marvin Williams' Value

[Proudiddy]

What is it to this team?  First off, i want to say, from watching interviews with him and hearing him speak over the last two years, i have gained a greater respect for him than ever as a person.  He appears to be an upstanding person and a sort of ambassador of sorts for our team and even the league...  just a great guy (and a fellow Tarheel).  But, despite his incredible shooting this season, which at times has been clutch, i've long wondered just what his value is to our team.

Despite, from what I gather, him being regarded as an above average defender, seeing how our team has been functioning without him in the lineup as of late makes him seem expendable, and possibly a hindrance to other's development, but then again, that seems to be how Cliff likes it.

Regardless, we came back from 23 and best one of the best teams in the league last night, not to mention one we haven't been able to beat on our luckiest day in the past.  Then, tonight, with Marvin out again, Frank got the start and had 10 points in the first 8 minutes or so of the game.  

Maybe some advanced analytics could shed a little more light on it than I'm willing to dig up, but from the eye test, I think Marvin is one of the reasons for iur inconsistency.  Despite his reputationas a defender, i think he actually hurts us because as a tweener, he doesn't really have the athleticism to match up with 3s or the bulk to match up with true 4s.

[OldNorthPowell]

3 minutes ago, Proudiddy said:

What is it to this team?  First off, i want to say, from watching interviews with him and hearing him speak over the last two years, i have gained a greater respect for him than ever as a person.  He appears to be an upstanding person and a sort of ambassador of sorts for our team and even the league...  just a great guy (and a fellow Tarheel).  But, despite his incredible shooting this season, which at times has been clutch, i've long wondered just what his value is to our team.

Despite, from what I gather, him being regarded as an above average defender, seeing how our team has been functioning without him in the lineup as of late makes him seem expendable, and possibly a hindrance to other's development, but then again, that seems to be how Cliff likes it.

Regardless, we came back from 23 and best one of the best teams in the league last night, not to mention one we haven't been able to beat on our luckiest day in the past.  Then, tonight, with Marvin out again, Frank got the start and had 10 points in the first 8 minutes or so of the game.  

Maybe some advance analytics could shed a little more light on it than I'm willing to dig up, but from the eye test, I think Marvin is one of the reasons for iur inconsistency.  Despite his reputationas a defender, i think he actually hurts us because as a tweener, he doesn't really have the athleticism to match up with 3s or the bulk to match up with true 4s.

I would try to keep him but anything over 7 million a year under the new cap is too much. 2 years at 7 million per is the most I would do. Basically his current contract with us again.