Kyle Love talks continue

[top dawg]

52 minutes ago, XClown1986 said:

Love played well for us. But Gettleman knows that it is a strong DT class and that he doesn't have to overpay to find depth. That coupled with Kyle Love making no other visits, I'd say the leverage is completely in Gettleman's favor.

I think that Love hasn't made any visits because he wants to be here, not because other teams wouldn't love to have him for depth of their own.

[TheSpecialJuan]

This big boy needs to just sign the contract before Gettleman pulls it.

[XClown1986]

1 hour ago, top dawg said:

I think that Love hasn't made any visits because he wants to be here, not because other teams wouldn't love to have him for depth of their own.

If this is true then he needs to take an introductory course to business. Because he sucks at it.

 

[CelticCat]

22 hours ago, Kakarot said:

Shoot, he got Boykin for less than a million. He should sweeten Love's deal a bit. Add an extra million on there.

Iknow you're kidding  but nobody is getting an extra MM  with Gman around. He knows he has more  big contracts coming and he he isnt overpaying for role players. If anything the Boykin and Soliai deals will mean he signs relatively cheap.

[csx]

Even if he signs I doubt he makes the roster. The offer he is getting likely reflects that.

[top dawg]

12 minutes ago, csx said:

Even if he signs I doubt he makes the roster. The offer he is getting likely reflects that.

I don't see how you'd make that leap. DT  (and its rotation) is very important to both G-man and Rivera. I don't even believe they'd waste their time talking to him if they didn't believe he is important. There is no replacement for veteran depth in the trenches.

 

21 minutes ago, XClown1986 said:

If this is true then he needs to take an introductory course to business. Because he sucks at it.

 

Not really. It depends on what Love is looking for. If he has managed his money correctly, then he should be financially independent. Financial independence brings a certain amount of freedom. He doesn't necessarily have to feel rushed or pressured to do anything. A stress free existence and quality of life trumps greed for many people.

[Kakarot]

Yea, I believe it's in Love's best interest to try and go find him a deal somewhere else. Start visiting him some teams. Unfortunately, I feel that Solai pickup spelled the end for him on the team. I don't think he'll beat out Paul, and I think Gettleman drafts a DT in the mold of Short. 

[XClown1986]

3 minutes ago, top dawg said:

Not really. It depends on what Love is looking for. If he has managed his money correctly, then he should be financially independent. Financial independence brings a certain amount of freedom. He doesn't necessarily have to feel rushed or pressured to do anything. A stress free existence and quality of life trumps greed for many people.

I agree that the environment could trump the money, but if that is the only stipulation, why hasn't he signed for whatever we were offering? He still is looking at the money, which means he needs to find out his market value and negotiate a reasonable contract to stay.

[csx]

9 minutes ago, top dawg said:

I don't see how you'd make that leap. DT  (and its rotation) is very important to both G-man and Rivera. I don't even believe they'd waste their time talking to him if they didn't believe he is important. There is no replacement for veteran depth in the trenches.

 

Not really. It depends on what Love is looking for. If he has managed his money correctly, then he should be financially independent. Financial independence brings a certain amount of freedom. He doesn't necessarily have to feel rushed or pressured to do anything. A stress free existence and quality of life trumps greed for many people.

It's an easy and obvious leap. We have carried 4 DTs other than a few overlapping times due to injuries. 2 NT types and 2 3 technique types. Unless you think he beats out Soliai then I'm not sure how he makes the squad. They are going to fill that player with a player in the mold of Short, not by rotating 3 NT's and Short.

[top dawg]

17 minutes ago, csx said:

It's an easy and obvious leap. We have carried 4 DTs other than a few overlapping times due to injuries. 2 NT types and 2 3 technique types. Unless you think he beats out Soliai then I'm not sure how he makes the squad. They are going to fill that player with a player in the mold of Short, not by rotating 3 NT's and Short.

Perhaps you're right, but I still don't believe his offer is being made with the believed eventuality of him being cut. Not only is the draft uncertain, but I can easily see us keeping five tackles on the roster. Who's to say that keeping five won't be (or isn't) the preference after all is said and done? Injuries are  always a concern, and it's not like the draft or NFL teams have rosters with the skills/experience that Love has proven to possess. He offers solid, steadfast depth at a moment's notice.

[TheRumGone]

Love definitely has some pass rush skills. Soliai is in the mold of Colin Cole.

[TheNewStandard]

Love, imo, is a product of the players around him. He's kinda undersized and he's 30-years old. 

He's a journeyman rotational guy, nothing more. I find it hard to believe that we can't find another guy  at vet-minimum knowing he's gonna get to be a rotational guy on a Championship-caliber team.

Just because your team is winning doesn't make you into a must have cog in the machine. How hard do y'all think we are really pursuing Love? I think it's more like we are trying to find a more talented player rather than trying to appease Love's demands. 

Last year was arguably Love's best year, even with some bangs and bruises he dealt with, as a professional and it wasn't pure dumb luck as we had the #2 defense in the league. He's a hole plugger, plain and simple. There's got to be any number of guys that would be an upgrade over Love.

 

[MHS831]

7 minutes ago, TheNewStandard said:

Love, imo, is a product of the players around him. He's kinda undersized and he's 30-years old. 

He's a journeyman rotational guy, nothing more. I find it hard to believe that we can't find another guy  at vet-minimum knowing he's gonna get to be a rotational guy on a Championship-caliber team.

Just because your team is winning doesn't make you into a must have cog in the machine. How hard do y'all think we are really pursuing Love? I think it's more like we are trying to find a more talented player rather than trying to appease Love's demands. 

Last year was arguably Love's best year, even with some bangs and bruises he dealt with, as a professional and it wasn't pure dumb luck as we had the #2 defense in the league. He's a hole plugger, plain and simple. There's got to be any number of guys that would be an upgrade over Love.

 

We need a 3 technique.  The draft is loaded at DT.  A perfect situation for a rookie is to come in and develop under the 3 veterans..  I highly doubt another NT type is a serious target.  I feel 100% confident that we draft a DT at some point. 

[TheNewStandard]

21 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

We need a 3 technique.  The draft is loaded at DT.  A perfect situation for a rookie is to come in and develop under the 3 veterans..  I highly doubt another NT type is a serious target.  I feel 100% confident that we draft a DT at some point. 

Absolutely. There is little to none chance that we don't take the best pass rusher available with our first pick.