Rule changes being discussed

[tondi]

Yeah they need a new terminology for fouls above and beyond whats currently considered a personal foul.  You can't throw a guy out for having two personal foul face masks where he barely even touches the face mask.  Ejection level fouls need to be restricted to cheap shots or fighting or other flagrant things that clearly go beyond appropriate behavior.

[shulasmyhero]

16 minutes ago, tondi said:

Yeah they need a new terminology for fouls above and beyond whats currently considered a personal foul.  You can't throw a guy out for having two personal foul face masks where he barely even touches the face mask.  Ejection level fouls need to be restricted to cheap shots or fighting or other flagrant things that clearly go beyond appropriate behavior.

As I understand it, the rule would apply to unsportsmanlike penalties.not the broader personal foul.

[CarolinaJami']

The whole catch thing only really comes into play when the players make a questionable move. If you go up, catch it with two hands and secure it there is nothing for the refs to try and decide. A lot of those catch/no catch calls would be eliminated if the players left no room for doubt.

[Pimpdaddy]

yea...and fug the tom brady tuck rule while ur at it..

[Icebox]

37 minutes ago, CarolinaJami' said:

The whole catch thing only really comes into play when the players make a questionable move. If you go up, catch it with two hands and secure it there is nothing for the refs to try and decide. A lot of those catch/no catch calls would be eliminated if the players left no room for doubt.

The problem isn't so much with the rule itself, but rather the fact that the rule is so unevenly enforced. If the objective is to improve officiating and fairness, they really should have come up with some very specific guidelines on when a catch is a catch.

[CarolinaJami']

10 minutes ago, Icebox said:

The problem isn't so much with the rule itself, but rather the fact that the rule is so unevenly enforced. If the objective is to improve officiating and fairness, they really should have come up with some very specific guidelines on when a catch is a catch.

I agree and players could help if they didn't try and make the highlight reel catches but just make sure the secured the ball at all times. That way that don't have to leave it to the refs for interpretation. Even in the Super Bowl if Cotchery doesn't double clutch the ball there is no question if its a catch or not.

[rb]

2 hours ago, rayzor said:

Making everything challenge-able is huge though.

Yeah, but that only helps if the guy reviewing it isn't a dickfor.

[bigdog10]

I've always thought there shouldn't be a limit on challenges as long as you are getting them right. 

[MurkN]

2 hours ago, shulasmyhero said:

As I understand it, the rule would apply to unsportsmanlike penalties.not the broader personal foul.

That's what makes it complete poo. If you celebrate too long in the endzone, go to the ground, or have multiple teammates celebrating with you, it's an unsportsmanlike excessive celebration penalty. With the new rule, if that happens twice you get kicked out of the game, while a guy could continually late hit the QB with roughing the passer or use helmet to helmet contact to a receiver and not be ejected.

[outlaw4]

4 hours ago, rayzor said:

Making everything challenge-able is huge though.

It is but that's why I added no more automatic reviews on anything. If a coach really wants to challenge a false start or a hold call, they can but they'll much more likely save them for scoring plays and turnovers. Basically, give them the option but make it so that they almost never bother using it.

No chance it's going to happen but that would be my starting point.

I also thought about what I would do about the catch rule.I considered having it as a two-second count. The receiver must secure the ball via their hands, chest or any other part of the body. Once this is established, if the ball makes no discernible movements after two seconds, the ball is considered as caught and the rules for a runner will then apply. There would be no exceptions to this rule.

[maddog1945]

"As stated now, any player now called for two unsportsmanlike conduct penalties will now automatically be ejected.  Per Michael David Smith, this can include such things as abusive language or taunting (watch out, Josh Norman."

You know, if the rules were ENFORCED over the last several years this would not have to be added now.

Its going to interesting to see how and if these rules get enforced!

I  also a rule that would not allow FG's in the last two minutes of the first half and especially in the last two minutes of a game.

Just my two cents worth.

 

 

[Cj72]

They need to do something different about penalties on scoring plays. The way it is now, you can run up and kick a player in the balls, get a flag and your team will still get the ball on the 20 after the kickoff. The only difference is the kickoff lands in the stands instead of at the bottom of the goal post.

It's like in college basketball when someone is going out of bounds and throws the ball off an opposing player. If throwing the ball at someone is a technical foul how can you throw it at them when you are going out of bounds?

[Ruff]

19 hours ago, Pimpdaddy said:

yea...and fug the tom brady tuck rule while ur at it..

That rule has been gone for a while now. 

[Inimicus]

Just to put an end to the hypothetical and misrepresentations here is the actual rules change being proposed:

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2016 PLAYING RULE PROPOSAL NO. 4
Amend Rule 12 (Player Conduct, p. 47) to add a new Section 4 (new language underlined):
Section 4 Automatic Disqualification
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Article 1.  Multiple Fouls.
In addition to any penalty referenced elsewhere in the Official Playing Rules, a player will be automatically disqualified in the event that player is penalized twice in the same  game for  committing  one of the unsportsmanlike conduct fouls  listed below, or a combination of the fouls listed below:
(a)   Throwing a punch, or a forearm, or kicking at an opponent, even though no contact is made.
(b)   Using abusive, threatening, or insulting language or gestures to opponents, teammates,officials, or representatives of the League.
(c)   Using baiting or taunting acts or words that engender ill will between teams.

The player will be automatically disqualified regardless of whether the penalty is accepted or declined by the opponent. The fouls do not have to be judged by the official to be flagrant for the automatic disqualification to occur, and any foul that occurs during the pregame warm-up period will carry over into the game. Nothing in this section supersedes the Game Official’s discretion to judge a foul to be flagrant and disqualify the player based on one occurrence.

The addition of a new Section 4 will cause the current Section 4 to become Section 5.
Submitted by Competition Committee
Effect:
Disqualifies a player who is penalized twice in one game for certain types of unsportsmanlike conduct fouls.
Reason: Player safety and integrity of the game.

 

From https://nflcommunications.com/Documents/2016%20Playing%20Rules%20Proposals.pdf

 

Its specifically targeting the kind of poo that went on between Josh and Beckham and not the helmet to helmet contact that occasionally happens when getting after a QB or Receiver.

 

I like some of the other ones

Half the distance penalties would result in adding distance to the Line to Gain is particularly interesting as is increasing the game day roster for non Sunday/Monday games and Intl games. While poo like alternate eligible number vests for guys who are not wearing eligible numbers normally is pretty stupid.