Derrick Henry to visit Panthers

[Captain Morgan]

several teams said Elliot interviewed poorly at the combine.  Combined with his comments after their loss, do not want.  Don't want Henry in the first, but would consider in the 2nd.

[Captain Morgan]

and this is an interesting read....

 

http://walterfootball.com/nfldraftrumormill.php

[Soul Rebel]

Elliott is the superior RB in this draft and should be gone top-20.  

Henry, brings an interesting package of skills to the team, and would be an incredible mismatch for defenses. Combine that, like others have said, to the height/build of our WRs/TEs, and Henry would be nasty behind Cam in our read-option.  

There are many guys I want in front of Henry and don't think he would be 'value' at 30. Maybe if DG trades out of the first, then I'd consider pulling the trigger in the early 2nd. Again, that would depend on who's available and who's not.  

My guess is that the team is doing their due diligence on an incredible athletic specimen for a position that could be a need after this season.  Depending on how the board falls, if Henry presents value to DG and RR, I wouldn't be mad one bit with Henry in Carolina.  JStew will be 30 before the 2017 begins and the jury is out on the late round/UDFA RBs we have. Henry could solve both of those problems. 

My concerns with Henry:

- 1 cut back

- runs upright

- lots of mileage on those tires

None of these three things necessarily equate to being a bad back in the NFL. Guys like Roger Craig and Eric Dickerson ran high, and were fed the rock for a looooong time.  

That being said, Henry's speed/size combo is amazing to watch. Once Henry is in the open field, he is a speeding tank that no defender would want to try to bring down. He's physical and actually has an extra gear that looks less impressive in metrics, but shines on tape.  The kid is boom or bust.... and I'd slot him somewhere between Brandon Jacobs and Steven Jackson.  

Hell, why don't we just sign Alfred Morris in FA. Haha.

[The Huddler]

#IWantHenry

 

Let it be known,  that i was on the banwagon long before he gets drafted by us,  plays like a Monster,  and becomes a fan  Favorite

 

We pick at 30 fellas..  Thats almost a 2nd round pick. You take an IMPACT player at 30. 

[ctrcat]

1 minute ago, Soul Rebel said:

Elliott is the superior RB in this draft and should be gone top-20.  

Henry, brings an interesting package of skills to the team, and would be an incredible mismatch for defenses. Combine that, like others have said, to the height/build of our WRs/TEs, and Henry would be nasty behind Cam in our read-option.  

There are many guys I want in front of Henry and don't think he would be 'value' at 30. Maybe if DG trades out of the first, then I'd consider pulling the trigger in the early 2nd. Again, that would depend on who's available and who's not.  

My guess is that the team is doing their due diligence on an incredible athletic specimen for a position that could be a need after this season.  Depending on how the board falls, if Henry presents value to DG and RR, I wouldn't be mad one bit with Henry in Carolina.  JStew will be 30 before the 2017 begins and the jury is out on the late round/UDFA RBs we have. Henry could solve both of those problems. 

My concerns with Henry:

- 1 cut back

- runs upright

- lots of mileage on those tires

None of these three things necessarily equate to being a bad back in the NFL. Guys like Roger Craig and Eric Dickerson ran high, and were fed the rock for a looooong time.  

That being said, Henry's speed/size combo is amazing to watch. Once Henry is in the open field, he is a speeding tank that no defender would want to try to bring down. He's physical and actually has an extra gear that looks less impressive in metrics, but shines on tape.  The kid is boom or bust.... and I'd slot him somewhere between Brandon Jacobs and Steven Jackson.  

Hell, why don't we just sign Alfred Morris in FA. Haha.

People had questions about Shaq too, saying we could have traded down, etc.. Horse hockey.  Not sure how it will unfold this year but if he's our guy, you take him. Denver, Tennessee, Dallas, maybe others WILL snatch him quickly if we don't.

[sml1950]

We had a chance to draft Henry's "twin" 20 years ago and took Tim B instead.  What a colossal mistake.  Eddie George (6'3" 240) won the heisman and was ROY in 1996.  He finished with 10,000+ yds and 78 TDs.  He definitely deserves a hard look.

[manu4t]

I watched ALA a ton this year.  Henry is a beast and I would love to have him, but I still think Kenyan Drake is a better fit for what we have right now (we arent getting rid of JStew).  Drake catches the ball well and has a good first cut.  He also returns kicks.  He would probably be available in the 3rd or 4th rd.  If we get an AL RB, purely my opinion, but Drake would be the better fit at this point.  But picking at 30, if Henry is on the Board and he is our top rated guy, I wont be upset if we take him.

[Mr. Scot]

56 minutes ago, Captain Morgan said:

and this is an interesting read....

http://walterfootball.com/nfldraftrumormill.php

Bosa strikes me as kind of a dumbass.

[Guest]

I wouldn't be against us drafting a running back like Derrick Henry or a higher round running back if they are the best player available. At the end of the day Jonathan Stewart is 29 next week and has two, maybe three years left on his contract. He's had his troubles with injuries and staying healthy. So this could be a chance to add insurance in case Stewart goes down injured [again], and potentially draft his successor because by the end of Stewart's contract he is going to be 30 or 31 years old and we all know what can happen to running backs at that age. 

That said, I don't think we need to draft a running back because we do have CAP, Whittaker and Wegher as the next men up. CAP does have ability and could be worth giving a larger role to next season. However, if the chance to add an upgrade on these backs presents itself in the draft, then I think Gettleman is the type of general manager that will draft that running back and make a hard decision when the roster cuts happen that will likely see Wegher and/or Whittaker shown the door depending on how many RBs we keep on the roster. 

[ctrcat]

5 minutes ago, Mike said:

I wouldn't be against us drafting a running back like Derrick Henry or a higher round running back if they are the best player available. At the end of the day Jonathan Stewart is 29 next week and has two, maybe three years left on his contract. He's had his troubles with injuries and staying healthy. So this could be a chance to add insurance in case Stewart goes down injured [again], and potentially draft his successor because by the end of Stewart's contract he is going to be 30 or 31 years old and we all know what can happen to running backs at that age. 

That said, I don't think we need to draft a running back because we do have CAP, Whittaker and Wegher as the next men up. CAP does have ability and could be worth giving a larger role to next season. However, if the chance to add an upgrade on these backs presents itself in the draft, then I think Gettleman is the type of general manager that will draft that running back and make a hard decision when the roster cuts happen that will likely see Wegher and/or Whittaker shown the door depending on how many RBs we keep on the roster. 

I don't think it's TOO insane to even entertain the idea of J Stew as a June 1 cut under that scenario.  J Stew righted a lot of 'wrongs' (contract, injuries) by being an animal for us last year, but those funds 'could' be turned into something else mighty juicy too.  Can't forget Stew is not an original GMan or RR guy too.  Who knows.

[TylerVagyler]

I feel like there's somewhat of a misconception as to what type of RB would fit our system. A lot of people point to the speedy, almost scat-like, backs who can catch out of the backfield and get outside. In reality, we are a smash-mouth team. We pound the ball down the opposing team's throat. We overwhelm them we how physical we play. Henry is that type of back. He will punish people. Much like we already try to do.

[Guest]

3 minutes ago, ctrcat said:

I don't think it's TOO insane to even entertain the idea of J Stew as a June 1 cut under that scenario.  J Stew righted a lot of 'wrongs' (contract, injuries) by being an animal for us last year, but those funds 'could' be turned into something else mighty juicy too.  Can't forget Stew is not an original GMan or RR guy too.  Who knows.

A couple of years ago I remember the question being asked about when can we cut J-Stew because he's not worth the contract he's being paid. Since then he has redeemed himself by becoming a fairly productive running back, but an argument could be made that he still hasn't lived up to his contract and may never do. So maybe you're right that Gettleman could consider cutting J-Stew this off season...

As a pre-June 1 cut we would only save about $2 million in cap space and take a hefty hit in dead money, but as a post-June 1 cut we could stand to save $5.75 million in cap space and only take a $3.8 million hit in dead money. 

To be honest I don't see Gettleman cutting J-Stew, but our general manager has made tough and surprising decisions before, and I doubt he is finished with making tough and surprising decisions. However, I think J-Stew will remain on the roster for another season or two. Even if we draft a first or second round player, I think we will keep him around to create that one-two punch in the running game. I guess if he and Rivera feel confident in a rookie carrying the rock, with CAP as the second RB on the depth chart, then we could use the cap savings elsewhere. But I still J-Stew on the roster for another season or two, even if we draft a running back early. 

[MV%doe]

1 hour ago, Soul Rebel said:

Elliott is the superior RB in this draft and should be gone top-20.  

Henry, brings an interesting package of skills to the team, and would be an incredible mismatch for defenses. Combine that, like others have said, to the height/build of our WRs/TEs, and Henry would be nasty behind Cam in our read-option.  

There are many guys I want in front of Henry and don't think he would be 'value' at 30. Maybe if DG trades out of the first, then I'd consider pulling the trigger in the early 2nd. Again, that would depend on who's available and who's not.  

My guess is that the team is doing their due diligence on an incredible athletic specimen for a position that could be a need after this season.  Depending on how the board falls, if Henry presents value to DG and RR, I wouldn't be mad one bit with Henry in Carolina.  JStew will be 30 before the 2017 begins and the jury is out on the late round/UDFA RBs we have. Henry could solve both of those problems. 

My concerns with Henry:

- 1 cut back

- runs upright

- lots of mileage on those tires

None of these three things necessarily equate to being a bad back in the NFL. Guys like Roger Craig and Eric Dickerson ran high, and were fed the rock for a looooong time.  

That being said, Henry's speed/size combo is amazing to watch. Once Henry is in the open field, he is a speeding tank that no defender would want to try to bring down. He's physical and actually has an extra gear that looks less impressive in metrics, but shines on tape.  The kid is boom or bust.... and I'd slot him somewhere between Brandon Jacobs and Steven Jackson.  

Hell, why don't we just sign Alfred Morris in FA. Haha.

 

1 hour ago, Soul Rebel said:

Elliott is the superior RB in this draft and should be gone top-20.  

Henry, brings an interesting package of skills to the team, and would be an incredible mismatch for defenses. Combine that, like others have said, to the height/build of our WRs/TEs, and Henry would be nasty behind Cam in our read-option.  

There are many guys I want in front of Henry and don't think he would be 'value' at 30. Maybe if DG trades out of the first, then I'd consider pulling the trigger in the early 2nd. Again, that would depend on who's available and who's not.  

My guess is that the team is doing their due diligence on an incredible athletic specimen for a position that could be a need after this season.  Depending on how the board falls, if Henry presents value to DG and RR, I wouldn't be mad one bit with Henry in Carolina.  JStew will be 30 before the 2017 begins and the jury is out on the late round/UDFA RBs we have. Henry could solve both of those problems. 

My concerns with Henry:

- 1 cut back

- runs upright

- lots of mileage on those tires

None of these three things necessarily equate to being a bad back in the NFL. Guys like Roger Craig and Eric Dickerson ran high, and were fed the rock for a looooong time.  

That being said, Henry's speed/size combo is amazing to watch. Once Henry is in the open field, he is a speeding tank that no defender would want to try to bring down. He's physical and actually has an extra gear that looks less impressive in metrics, but shines on tape.  The kid is boom or bust.... and I'd slot him somewhere between Brandon Jacobs and Steven Jackson.  

Hell, why don't we just sign Alfred Morris in FA. Haha.

 

1 hour ago, Soul Rebel said:

Elliott is the superior RB in this draft and should be gone top-20.  

Henry, brings an interesting package of skills to the team, and would be an incredible mismatch for defenses. Combine that, like others have said, to the height/build of our WRs/TEs, and Henry would be nasty behind Cam in our read-option.  

There are many guys I want in front of Henry and don't think he would be 'value' at 30. Maybe if DG trades out of the first, then I'd consider pulling the trigger in the early 2nd. Again, that would depend on who's available and who's not.  

My guess is that the team is doing their due diligence on an incredible athletic specimen for a position that could be a need after this season.  Depending on how the board falls, if Henry presents value to DG and RR, I wouldn't be mad one bit with Henry in Carolina.  JStew will be 30 before the 2017 begins and the jury is out on the late round/UDFA RBs we have. Henry could solve both of those problems. 

My concerns with Henry:

- 1 cut back

- runs upright

- lots of mileage on those tires

None of these three things necessarily equate to being a bad back in the NFL. Guys like Roger Craig and Eric Dickerson ran high, and were fed the rock for a looooong time.  

That being said, Henry's speed/size combo is amazing to watch. Once Henry is in the open field, he is a speeding tank that no defender would want to try to bring down. He's physical and actually has an extra gear that looks less impressive in metrics, but shines on tape.  The kid is boom or bust.... and I'd slot him somewhere between Brandon Jacobs and Steven Jackson.  

Hell, why don't we just sign Alfred Morris in FA. Haha.

My huge question \s is Henry toughness and playing hurt. My study and baseless gut tell me he isn't either of those. Now if I hear honest smart opinions form proven talent people that evaluate him him as the opposite , I'll listen. LB,DL, and safety are on a different level in pros. They are not scared of big RB and look forward to punishing the big fast guys.

 

Honestly I'm a little shock nothing has been done with stews contract. I figured it would be just like cj, either take a cut or be cut.

 

Plus the panthers currently has a surplus of RBs. Toldozer came back for cheap, they love fozzy more than me, cap is meh, now I like wegner. If they had only had two out those five, then I'd be all for Morris. It's almost like they've done too good of job at this spot.

[TheSpecialJuan]

2 hours ago, Dick the Butcher said:

Not gonna happen. 

yes it is.