Why Weddle won't be a Panther

[Rags]

Few things

 

1. Gipsion is far from a 1 year wonder. His first two years he was REALLY good. Slipped up a bit last year but he'll bounce back. Good signing for the Jags.

 

2. Lol if you're comparing Harper, who's always been slow, to Eric Weddle. Just lol.

2b. Seriously lol. Roman Harper's problem wasn't really his age. He was just...mediocre. He always was. Mediocre tackling, mediocre coverage, mediocre atleticsim. Safties usually play well into their 30s, up until about 36-37. This isn't Madden where your spped drops to 79 soon as you hit 30.

 

3. Weddle's problem was only partly his contact, mostly how poo the Chargers treated him. 

 

4. I want us to sign Weddle, as many of us here do, but to act like he's gonna be the highest paid safety EVA and have an unreachable contract by us is lol. Look at other safety contracts this off season. He'll be somewhere around there.

[TheSpecialJuan]

40 minutes ago, thomas96 said:

Show me where.

He's the best safety available and one of the best in the league. If that's not top-tier then I don't know what is.

Over there

[MadHatter]

This thread is why I HATE the offseason.....good fans go epic stupid this time of year because of football withdrawl.

[TheSpecialJuan]

39 minutes ago, carolina-chuck2 said:

Dumb

Not dumb

[MHS831]

8 hours ago, TheSpecialJuan said:

I'll be glad when Weddle signs with the Raiders tomorrow. We would all be able to move on.

I am one who thinks that Weddle may not be worth the price tag.  one reason I am not crazy about the idea.  Boston is in his third season and he needs a shot.  Weddle would stunt his growth, as it would that of Marlowe.  I like both players. 

 

[Zaximus]

Weddle was the second best coverage safety at his position last year.  He can easily play with Coleman.   Coleman got burnt often last year but because of the INTs no one remembers.   Weddle would help back there, but also help us on the other side opposite Norman because of his elite coverage skills.   Basically he would be great at his position and also help coverage as a whole since that side is still up in question because Bene was pretty bad last year.

I don't think he's going to get a huge contract, his age and the market, so I think he may be worth it.  He has familiarity with Rivera's system.   Better coverage also helps the defensive line which is a question mark as well with Johnson looking faded out and depth an issue.   As long as he will accept 5-6 mill we're good to go.    Boston could be ready but why pass on someone like this if it makes sense?

 

[NJPanthers12]

Why do people have so much faith in Tre Boston? He's done nothing to make anyone believe he would be an above average starter.

[DelhommesTheMan]

Because Boston has shown to be a capable starter, and is a guy we invested a draft pick on, and is cheap.  I'm all about the inside out approach, spend money on the Dline and your Safety group will shine.    Boston is more than an adequate for what we need, he'll Harper was awful in coverage, Boston is much better in that regard. Harper was a pure in the box guy who was a good tackler against the run.  Boston is rangy and can make plays.

[Zaximus]

1 minute ago, DelhommesTheMan said:

Because Boston has shown to be a capable starter, and is a guy we invested a draft pick on, and is cheap.  I'm all about the inside out approach, spend money on the Dline and your Safety group will shine.    Boston is more than an adequate for what we need, he'll Harper was awful in coverage, Boston is much better in that regard. Harper was a pure in the box guy who was a good tackler against the run.  Boston is rangy and can make plays.

No he hasn't.  He's had a couple good games and a couple bad games.  That's why he was on the bench while Harper was out there playing until he got hurt.   We still may just roll with him, but Weddle is way better.

[Woodie]

18 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

I am one who thinks that Weddle may not be worth the price tag.  one reason I am not crazy about the idea.  Boston is in his third season and he needs a shot.  Weddle would stunt his growth, as it would that of Marlowe.  I like both players. 

 

Boston has had his shot, and he keeps getting one every time they practice and every time he gets in a game.  In other words, the coaches have had ample time to evaluate him and form an idea about what they think about him.  But lets say they still aren't sure, are you willing to risk a potential Super Bowl season on the hope that he is a capable starter just to see?  Point being the team either has had enough time to decide if they can trust him as a starter, or they haven't and we would be risking our backfield health on a guy that hasn't shown enough.

For all we know, the coaching staff may love Boston and has determined that he is ready, and is already penciling him in as the starter next to Coleman.  In fact, they may not have any interest in bringing Weddle in at all.  It's just fans and the media speculating that he may be an option.  But it's also possible that the team has determined that Boston is a solid backup, but doesn't see him as disciplined and consistent enough to be the starter. 

But if the team does have reservations about Boston being the starter (whether they haven't seen enough or they just see him as limited) and Weddle is available at a reasonable price, then they would be foolish to pass on him just so they won't stunt the development of one of the younger guys. 

[MHS831]

Just now, Woodie said:

Boston has had his shot, and he keeps getting one every time they practice and every time he gets in a game.  In other words, the coaches have had ample time to evaluate him and form an idea about what they think about him.  But lets say they still aren't sure, are you willing to risk a potential Super Bowl season on the hope that he is a capable starter just to see?  Point being the team either has had enough time to decide if they can trust him as a starter, or they haven't and we would be risking our backfield health on a guy that hasn't shown enough.

For all we know, the coaching staff may love Boston and has determined that he is ready, and is already penciling him in as the starter next to Coleman.  In fact, they may not have any interest in bringing Weddle in at all.  It's just fans and the media speculating that he may be an option.  But it's also possible that the team has determined that Boston is a solid backup, but doesn't see him as disciplined and consistent enough to be the starter. 

But if the team does have reservations about Boston being the starter (whether they haven't seen enough or they just see him as limited) and Weddle is available at a reasonable price, then they would be foolish to pass on him just so they won't stunt the development of one of the younger guys. 

Signing Weddle means Coleman moves to SS, I would guess.  I agree with your scenarios, the point being we really don't know what they feel about Boston.  Maybe he is just a special teamer and depth--I have said that before.  However, if they are grooming him to play (as is the case for most players entering year 3--the "make or break" year) and they like Marlowe as they say they do, then Weddle, a player whose best days are probably behind him, would impede that development.  I am not going to assume that the addition of Weddle means a Super Bowl.  He would be an upgrade, but the money used elsewhere might be more beneficial. 

I agree with what you are saying, and if we do not feel Boston/Marlowe have what it takes, then sure. I operate on the assumption that young players on the roster are in the plans to become starters in time.

[csx]

The only reason Boston should get a shot is if he deserves a shot.  We will find out but simply being in his 3rd year doesn't qualify him for being a starter. 

[panthers55]

I am sure Weddle wants to get paid just like every player in the league.  On the other hand Weddle is 31 which is old for a safety and he is not the best in the league.  If money is the only thing then it is true someone else could over pay for him.  But if he wants to pay for a contender as he said he did, then the market gets much smaller as will his ability to dictate his price.

[TheMaulClaw]

It would be cool if we got Weddle, but I'm completely ok with Tre Boston and a draft pick.