Official NFL Free Agency Thread

[Khyber53]

Yikes to the idea of Percy Harvin.

[Ricky Spanish]

5 hours ago, GoobyPls said:

I wonder if the Titans are willing to trade one of their receivers, I would love to get Kendall Wright 

 

Percy Harvin is still available, he's pretty much Ginn on steroids. It sucks Ozzy took Wallace and SD got Benjamin

Percy Harvin is a douche-canoe, never healthy, and a crappy teammate. He's not coming anywhere near Charlotte. 

[The NFL Shield At Midfield]

9 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

Saints actually tried to do it a second time the year they went after Byrd, but the plan failed.

Now they're in cap hell and we're laughing at them.

Well, except for the ones saying "Hey, why don't WE try that?"

nobody remembers the teams that do stuff like this and fail.  there were two alone last season in the colts and dolphins-roundly praised for all their splash signings and trades all for nothing.

this is nothing like the hurney years where our own players were vastly overpaid for no real reason outside of the fact that we drafted them and they were part of the "family".  do you think dave gettleman would have given charles godfrey 5 years and $28 million?  james anderson 5 years and $30.5?  probably not.  on the other hand, what do you think kurt coleman would be getting paid right now if every team got a do-over on 2015's free agency period?

the idea isn't that any and all participation in free agency is stupid and the panthers should just cocoon until the draft and do nothing otherwise.  carefully balancing cost with expectations  (aka looking for value) lands you a michael oher, a guy who indisputably played far above his salary.  his cap figure is $800k more than graham gano's for crying out loud and PFF ranked him in the top half of the league in pass blocking.  he was 15th which was better than russell okung whom denver will be paying $48 million with $20.5 guaranteed if they exercise his option going into 2017.  we had PFF's number two pass blocking line in 2015 and there is one player on it with a cap figure above $5 million and that's ryan kalil at $10.3 million.  both guards including a pro bowler count less than $1 million.  that's freaking awesome by any measure.  the clear weak link on the line is remmers and he's going to be challenged all throughout camp and the preseason by daryl williams.

the whole point of maintaining a cap cushion in the first place is so that you can retain your own players, at least in the general sense.  midseason signings and emergencies and all that play into it too to a lesser extent.  this wasn't necessarily a great strategy in the hurney era but with a great talent evaluator like gettleman building our rosters it's well worth it.  keeping the band together just to do it isn't the same thing as keeping the band together because it makes sense.

[Growl]

10 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

It's a plan to be in contention every year, not in ten years.

You do realize we went to the Super Bowl last year, right?

Good grief, you know nothing.

I remember losing the super bowl to a superior team. The same team who was in the super bowl a couple years ago and responded to their loss not by desperately holding the gang together and hoping it was a fluke but by ensuring that they were the best team. 

[Growl]

10 hours ago, Saca312 said:

Growl's logic is to overspend in FA and build up a team for a one time rush at a SuperBowl. Sure, it's worked for the Broncos. It sure won't work out for them next year, however, while the Panthers are still growing and developing their core. They have not peaked yet, and what Gettlemen's doing is just all out magic. Keeping the core together to last a long time, and get repeat after repeat SuperBowls.

The Dolphins, Jags, Saints, etc. have employed that "one time Superbowl rush, overspend in FA" strategy, and for most of the time it didn't work out. Saints have won a SuperBowl, but you don't hear about them anymore, as they've regressed quite rapidly. Panthers are not going anywhere. If anything they're like the Patriots, they're built to last a long time.

Gonna be fun this season watching all the overspenders cave in *cough* Giants *cough* because of bad chemistry, and seeing the Broncos not even make it to the playoffs. Panthers have good chemistry, and a wel developing team. I'm done here.

Lol not at their peak? Well whose fault is that because they're certainly overdue. 

 

And honestly stop comparing us to new England . its embarrassing by itself given the contrast in success, but the mental gymnastics one has to go through to pull it off must be exhausting and is no doubt affecting the quality of your posts as a whole. We aren't built like new england, in fact, as I've stated in this very thread-im a huge advocate of actually striving to be.

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, Growl said:

I remember losing the super bowl to a superior team. The same team who was in the super bowl a couple years ago and responded to their loss not by desperately holding the gang together and hoping it was a fluke but by ensuring that they were the best team. 

And what about the other teams that tried the same thing and failed? Like, for example, the Saints that you were so jealous of last offseason?

Lots of teams go all out for a single season, but the only thing it ever guarantees is years of suckage afterward. The Saints did it twice in recent years and failed both times, but you want us to be like them.

Seriously, just go be a Saints fan cause Gettleman isn't changing his approach. And at least over there you might find some agreement instead of everybody mocking you.

[Growl]

13 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

And what about the other teams that tried the same thing and failed? Like, for example, the Saints that you were so jealous of last offseason?

Lots of teams go all out for a single season, but the only thing it ever guarantees is years of suckage afterward. The Saints did it twice in recent years and failed both times, but you want us to be like them.

Seriously, just go be a Saints fan cause Gettleman isn't changing his approach. And at least over there you might find some agreement instead of everybody mocking you.

 

13 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

And what about the other teams that tried the same thing and failed? Like, for example, the Saints that you were so jealous of last offseason?

Lots of teams go all out for a single season, but the only thing it ever guarantees is years of suckage afterward. The Saints did it twice in recent years and failed both times, but you want us to be like them.

Seriously, just go be a Saints fan cause Gettleman isn't changing his approach. And at least over there you might find some agreement instead of everybody mocking you.

Lol don't look so wounded Scot, its unbecoming.

Your inability to decipher between calculated spending for quality players at areas of need (the likes of which cost us the super bowl) and the saints throwing millions at aged relics like champ baily and james laurinitis is, as I said last year, either willful ignorance so that you don't have to confront the reality of the discussion or a legitimate litmus of your inability to think critically as as a whole. 

 

So before we go on, answer that for me. Which one is it so I know?

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, Growl said:

Lol don't look so wounded Scot, its unbecoming.

Your inability to decipher between calculated spending for quality players at areas of need (the likes of which cost us the super bowl) and the saints throwing millions at aged relics like champ baily and james laurinitis is, as I said last year, either willful ignorance so that you don't have to confront the reality of the discussion or a legitimate litmus of your inability to think critically as as a whole. 

So before we go on, answer that for me. Which one is it so I know?

Don't flatter yourself dude. You're not that important. Frankly, you're a laughingstock here. Heck, just look at the responses you're getting.

I suppose if you really wanted attention, you've got it. If it doesn't matter to you that the attention is multiple people calling you stupid, well that's your choice. Pathetic, but your choice.

You made some pretty ignorant comments last offseason too, but thankfully the Panthers front office is much smarter than you are. So the rest of us will be enjoying watching our team be a perennial contender while you sit back and stew that they didn't do it your way.

[TheRumGone]

19 minutes ago, Growl said:

 

Lol don't look so wounded Scot, its unbecoming.

Your inability to decipher between calculated spending for quality players at areas of need (the likes of which cost us the super bowl) and the saints throwing millions at aged relics like champ baily and james laurinitis is, as I said last year, either willful ignorance so that you don't have to confront the reality of the discussion or a legitimate litmus of your inability to think critically as as a whole. 

 

So before we go on, answer that for me. Which one is it so I know?

Dude I get what you are saying. We can win a super bowl without mortgaging our future. That is the whole point.

a couple seasons ago you praised the saints and dolphins signings. They didn't do poo. It's not like you can just sign two marquee players and then whoooosh super bowl baby!!! The chances are still stacked against you. Is it not better knowing we can get it done with the talented pieces we have already then to try to buy up players and know that if this doesn't work we are fuged for seasons afterwards? This isn't some simple let's sign the two best free agents at their respective positions and then we win a superb owl. 

We still have young players who will be better next year. We got one of the most talented rosters in the league right now. I like our chances, as is, against any team in the league.

[TheRumGone]

Also can you name players we could've or can sign right now that you know for sure would put us over the top for a super bowl win?

[TheRumGone]

And aren't you a fiscal conservative? Lol

[Mr. Scot]

Getting back to actual free agent news rather than conversations with our resident dunce...

The Titans have re-signed our old buddy Byron Bell.

[CelticCat]

We didn't lose the SB because of any extra money we didnt spend.or expensive player we didnt sign. We clearly had the best record during the season, so we were the elite team to beat. We lost because we didn't show up, fumbling the ball, time and time again, throwing picks and basically capitulating on offense. Denver came to play, they were prepared to do anything to win while we stood around feeling sorry for ourselves. We chose a bad day to have a bad day. On another day we may have won. Hopefully next time we come better prepared because we looked like a team that thought wed role to a win but we got smacked in the mouth. We were way more focused for Seattle and Arizona. 

[Handsome Steve]

11 minutes ago, CelticCat said:

We didn't lose the SB because of any extra money we didnt spend.or expensive player we didnt sign. We clearly had the best record during the season, so we were the elite team to beat. We lost because we didn't show up, fumbling the ball, time and time again, throwing picks and basically capitulating on offense. Denver came to play, they were prepared to do anything to win while we stood around feeling sorry for ourselves. We chose a bad day to have a bad day. On another day we may have won. Hopefully next time we come better prepared because we looked like a team that thought wed role to a win but we got smacked in the mouth. We were way more focused for Seattle and Arizona. 

But I think the question is, is who do we lay that at the feet of? Was it on the players? On the coaches? I couldn't be the only one that thought we came out VERY lackluster, since we were being talked up the entire two weeks leading up to the bowl. I think a lot of fans were just so heart broken that they are grasping at straws for an explanation.

But anyway, any news on ANYONE visiting us? Haha, who am I kidding, of course there isn't.