Panthers free agent possibilities/predictions

[Mr. Scot]

17 minutes ago, iamhubby1 said:

Oh sure you can. But only if stupid is willing to learn. Is stupid just too stupid. Or is there hope. The problem is; You just never know which one it is going to be.

I do admire your patience. I could never go through the process like you. I usually give it a few tries, then make the decision to continue, or to give up. You are willing to go the distance. Must be the coach in you. Never leave a kid behind sort of mentality.

The coach is part of it, but I also know a kid like this in real life. He's always trying to act like he knows a lot of stuff because he's looking for approval.

The big difference is the kid I know personally is actually willing to listen and accept that sometimes he doesn't know everything. 

This kid, not so much. Maybe because it's online.

Maybe in a few years, he'll grow up a little bit. We can hope, right?

[Bartin]

Coples probably isn't signed yet because we offered him a deal that was lower than his liking and his agent probably said to wait until free agency sorts itself out and see what offers he gets. Doesn't mean we won't get him, but he is probably seeing what else is available and if it's competitive with other offers he will probably be in Charlotte.

[iamhubby1]

40 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

The coach is part of it, but I also know a kid like this in real life. He's always trying to act like he knows a lot of stuff because he's looking for approval.

The big difference is the kid I know personally is actually willing to listen and accept that sometimes he doesn't know everything. 

This kid, not so much. Maybe because it's online.

Maybe in a few years, he'll grow up a little bit. We can hope, right?

 

All I know for certain is that I am damm proud of this team since Gman arrived. He has helped Rivera change not only the culture of this Org., but also the talent level. I just don't see a reason to be all salty over what is going on around here.

 

I've been a Lions fan for a Long, Long time. Outside of a handful of seasons, the off-season is probably more exciting. Maybe this will be the year everything comes together. Maybe this will be the year we start winning. Unfortunately, once the season starts, it is back to normal. Hellz, even with a decent QB now, which we really never had before, we still can't seem to win.

 

Yet here are our beloved Panthers. In the past 3 years we have gone from a team that could be dangerous. To a team that IS dangerous. And there are way too many "Fans" that are still not happy. I mean, wtf?

 

I guess until we figure out a way to go undefeated, and win every SuperB owl, we will never be good enough for some. Too bad really. They are missing out on some damm good football.

[Byrdman4real]

2 hours ago, Bartin said:

Coples probably isn't signed yet because we offered him a deal that was lower than his liking and his agent probably said to wait until free agency sorts itself out and see what offers he gets. Doesn't mean we won't get him, but he is probably seeing what else is available and if it's competitive with other offers he will probably be in Charlotte.

This

[Cpt slay a ho]

It's a shame grimes wife is going to cost him otherwise he's been a model citizen 

[heel31ok]

4 hours ago, iamhubby1 said:

 

All I know for certain is that I am damm proud of this team since Gman arrived. He has helped Rivera change not only the culture of this Org., but also the talent level. I just don't see a reason to be all salty over what is going on around here.

 

I've been a Lions fan for a Long, Long time. Outside of a handful of seasons, the off-season is probably more exciting. Maybe this will be the year everything comes together. Maybe this will be the year we start winning. Unfortunately, once the season starts, it is back to normal. Hellz, even with a decent QB now, which we really never had before, we still can't seem to win.

 

Yet here are our beloved Panthers. In the past 3 years we have gone from a team that could be dangerous. To a team that IS dangerous. And there are way too many "Fans" that are still not happy. I mean, wtf?

 

I guess until we figure out a way to go undefeated, and win every SuperB owl, we will never be good enough for some. Too bad really. They are missing out on some damm good football.

No one is missing out on the football...

[GoobyPls]

8 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

They built a Super Bowl contender kid, i.e. the second best team in the entire NFL.

You not having the brains to get that isn't really my problem.

Whose they? Hurney the guy the team fired and hypocrites like you question and criticize his every move is the one who built the backbone of this team. 

 

And at at the end of the day we LOST the SB to a team who actually spends in free agency, who you probably criticized for over spending like every other sheep brain dead moron.

[KDawg004]

Weddle, Hayward, Boykin, Coples, Long, Fairley. Seem like realistic options for us. Hoping we sign 3 of those names.

[Mr. Scot]

3 hours ago, GoobyPls said:

Whose they? Hurney the guy the team fired and hypocrites like you question and criticize his every move is the one who built the backbone of this team. 

And at at the end of the day we LOST the SB to a team who actually spends in free agency, who you probably criticized for over spending like every other sheep brain dead moron.

Ah yes. Shame on everybody who actually loved watching that 15-1 season, seeing the team dominate in the playoffs and go to a Super Bowl. They all should have been raging about the team not picking the players that you wanted.

(bet it'll sure suck for you if they have yet another winning season despite not taking any of your advice)

And FYI, we did spend money in free agency last year kid, as we will this year (already have actually). Believe it or not, it still counts even if it's not somebody that you suggested.

Iamhubby is right. You don't have the capacity to understand real world football. You'd be better off sticking to Madden. And you're not worth the time that it takes to point out to you just how ridiculously stupid your arguments are.

Enjoy yourself, kid. From what I can see, you're the only one who is.

[KB_fan]

3 hours ago, GoobyPls said:

Whose they? Hurney the guy the team fired and hypocrites like you question and criticize his every move is the one who built the backbone of this team. 

 

And at at the end of the day we LOST the SB to a team who actually spends in free agency, who you probably criticized for over spending like every other sheep brain dead moron.

It may be pointless, but here are the season snap counts of non-Hurney guys on our Super Bowl team.  (Gettleman guys in blue):

DEFENSIVE ENDS

Kony Ealy — 739

Jared Allen — 627

Charles Johnson — 490

Mario Addison — 449

Ryan Delaire — 246

Wes Horton — 197

 

DEFENSIVE TACKLES

Kawann Short — 897

Star Lotulelei — 633

Dwan Edwards — 447

Kyle Love — 343

Colin Cole — 49

 

LINEBACKERS

Thomas Davis — 1,159

Luke Kuechly — 951

Shaq Thompson — 442

A.J. Klein — 326

Ben Jacobs — 35

 

CORNERBACKS

Josh Norman — 1,243

Bené Benwikere — 786

Charles Tillman — 670

Cortland Finnegan — 357

Robert McClain — 225

Teddy Williams — 68

 

SAFETIES

Kurt Coleman — 1,199

Roman Harper — 1,070

Tre Boston — 282

Colin Jones — 158

Dean Marlowe — 9

 

Totals on Defense:   9200 snaps Gettleman players / 4897 Hurney players

 

QUARTERBACKS

Cam Newton — 1,284

Derek Anderson — 31

Joe Webb — 19

 

RUNNING BACKS

Jonathan Stewart — 718

Mike Tolbert — 520

Fozzy Whittaker — 181

Cameron Artis-Payne — 122

Brandon Wegher — 2

 

WIDE RECEIVERS

Philly Brown — 884

Ted Ginn — 813

Devin Funchess — 587

Jerricho Cotchery — 528

Brenton Bersin — 99

Kevin Norwood — 13

 

TIGHT ENDS

Greg Olsen — 1,263

Ed Dickson — 707

Scott Simonson — 33

Brandon Williams — 6

Richie Brockel — 3

 

OFFENSIVE LINE

OT Mike Remmers — 1,315

OT Michael Oher — 1,297

G Trai Turner — 1,287

C Ryan Kalil — 1,203

G Andrew Norwell — 1,006

G Amini Silatolu — 238

OL Fernando Velasco — 114

OL Chris Scott — 109

OT Daryl Williams — 83

 

TOTAL for Offense:  9344 Gettleman  /   5121 Hurney

Total snaps:  65% Gettleman / 35% Hurney

There's no denying that Hurney had a big hand in shaping our 2015 Super Bowl contending team.    He drafted / acquired many of our biggest stars / franchise faces:  Cam, Luke, TD, Greg, Josh, Ryan Kalil, J Stew - all pro bowlers - without whom we would not have gone 17-2.  But as so many have said, these players alone do not a team make.  Of the 55 players listed above, Gettleman acquired 40, Hurney 15.   No one is trying to deny that Hurney drafted / acquire some great talented players, but G'man shaped the team around them.  We won AS A TEAM.  We needed all 55 of those guys.

 

[KB_fan]

4 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Ah yes. Shame on everybody who actually loved watching that 15-1 season, seeing the team dominate in the playoffs and go to a Super Bowl. They all should have been raging about the team not picking the players that you wanted.

(bet it'll sure suck for you if they have yet another winning season despite not taking any of your advice)

And FYI, we did spend money in free agency last year kid, as we will this year (already have actually). Believe it or not, it still counts even if it's not somebody that you suggested.

Actually yes.  We spent BIG BIG BIG in last year's offseason, including free agency - keeping our own players from being lost to free agency.  Greg, TD, DA, Cam, Luke....

Because of Dave's fiscal responsibility and careful penny pinching in his player acquisitions, we could afford even these "Tiffany's" level guys.

[DelhommesTheMan]

You can argue that Cam, Olsen, Luke, TD, CJ are Gettleman guys now.  He after all got them new contracts to keep them Panthers for many years to come.  Without Gettleman the Panthers most likely don't have the same success and who says Cam even wants to stay here.  These guys are not Hurneys anymore in my opinion, Dave has kept them Panthers at the right price and that is equally as important as drafting them.

[GoobyPls]

2 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

Ah yes. Shame on everybody who actually loved watching that 15-1 season, seeing the team dominate in the playoffs and go to a Super Bowl. They all should have been raging about the team not picking the players that you wanted.

(bet it'll sure suck for you if they have yet another winning season despite not taking any of your advice)

And FYI, we did spend money in free agency last year kid, as we will this year (already have actually). Believe it or not, it still counts even if it's not somebody that you suggested.

Iamhubby is right. You don't have the capacity to understand real world football. You'd be better off sticking to Madden. And you're not worth the time that it takes to point out to you just how ridiculously stupid your arguments are.

Enjoy yourself, kid. From what I can see, you're the only one who is.

LOL look at this child trying to put words in my mouth.

You keep bringing up madden yet not once did I even bring up an expensive FA LOL. Your little agenda is blowing up in your face your trying so hard to combat the reasons we lost by avoiding facts.

 

You have no comeback for the fact that the last 4 SB winners have all aquired prominent FA to help them put them over the edge, your the only one satisfied with not winning the SB since in your mind it amplifies your dumb reasoning of not signing prominent FA

[Mr. Scot]

1 hour ago, GoobyPls said:

LOL look at this child trying to put words in my mouth.

You keep bringing up madden yet not once did I even bring up an expensive FA LOL. Your little agenda is blowing up in your face your trying so hard to combat the reasons we lost by avoiding facts.

You have no comeback for the fact that the last 4 SB winners have all aquired prominent FA to help them put them over the edge, your the only one satisfied with not winning the SB since in your mind it amplifies your dumb reasoning of not signing prominent FA

That's the fun of it, kid. I don't have to "put words in your mouth" to make you look dumb. You do that on your own.