Person: Panthers "have their eyes on" Eric Weddle

[Bartin]

4 minutes ago, stirs said:

My opinion is that he talks the "want to play for a contender" stuff, just to make Oakland up the ante to get him.  JMO

That and it probably pisses of the Chargers

[Bartin]

19 minutes ago, Proudiddy said:

Yeah, after reading the MMQB blurb on Weddle, i am 99% sure he isn't coming here.  He spoke at length specifically about the Pats being among his favorites, and it just sounded like he's expecting a bigger deal than we would be willing to offer.  

I feel like DG and our staff like Tre enough that sure, they'd look for a potential upgrade and/or competition at the position if it's reasonable, but if not, they're perfectly happy with going into the season with Tre as the starter opposite Coleman.

I don't really see him being a fit with the Pats at all which makes that strange. McCourty is a pure FS and they just signed him to a huge deal last offseason. Neither Weddle or McCourty are suited to play SS at all(Kurt at least can move to SS without much difficulty) so I really don't see how they are playing both at the same time except in sub packages and on top of that the Patriots really don't have very much cap space to pay him what he will want.

Weddle might want it, but I really don't see Belichick having much interest at all.

[GoobyPls]

13 hours ago, thefuzz said:

You know how I know you don't watch football?

That said, I would love to have him here at the right price.  We will likely be starting Bene on the outside, and a younger player/new player at the slot....with Josh on a one year rental as the other starting CB.

We probably need a vet back there that knows football inside and out to pair with TD and Luke.

Every SD fans wants Jalen Ramsey cause they are tired of seeing Weddle get burned LOL

 

But yeah keep think he's some prize possession, I don't like Boston but I would rather start him then waste money on a washed up Weddle 

[iamhubby1]

15 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

I'm not yet convinced Boston is full time starter material, honestly.

 

He is coming into his third year. Hopefully, this is the year things fall into place for him. We sure have a bunch of those 3rd year players. If what Gman says comes true. That it takes 3 years to develop players. Then we should be in good shape with some of our own.

[CarolinaNCSU]

For shits and gigs, and cap space can obviously be manipulated (using Spotrac)...

Steelers - 7.1 mil

New England - 14.7 mil 

Carolina - 20.4 mil

Oakland - 65.3 mil

 

Oakland is a team on the rise...but SB contender next year? Don't see it unless they hit big in FA and the draft. But, they may be the only team on his supposed list who can afford him comfortably. I don't fully trust Boston yet (or Coleman for that matter, who will be entering a contract year) so if the price is right on Weddle, you get him IMO. That said, I don't think he ends up here. 

[Louie]

Weddle says he wants to play for a contender, but most contenders don't pay alot for free agents. I guess he needs to decide does he want a chance at a SB ring, or does he want to feed his family.

[Ricky Spanish]

My Money is on Weddle to Oakland. It's still in CA where his family is, he'll get paid handsomely, and he'll get to stick it to the chargers twice a year. 

[NcPsa10]

Espn Jeremy Fowler is hearing that, at least early on, players such as CB Sean Smith and S Eric Weddle will be out of the Steelers’ price range.  

[Bartin]

5 minutes ago, Louie said:

Weddle says he wants to play for a contender, but most contenders don't pay alot for free agents. I guess he needs to decide does he want a chance at a SB ring, or does he want to feed his family.

Denver got Talib, Manning, TJ Ward and Sanders from free agency

New England got Revis and Browner

Seattle got Bennett and Avril

Baltimore got Bryant McKinnie and Anquan Boldin

New York got Antrel Rolle

Green Bay got Charles Woodson

New Orleans got Darren Sharper

Pittsburgh didn't really have anyone of note

New York got Plaxico Burress

Every Super Bowl champion since 2007(Not bothering to go back farther) except Pittsburgh in 2008 had a major pro bowl level prior to joining addition in free agency that signed big contracts.

[stirs]

year after year, the big players in FA are generally the losers in the NFL

You never hear for instance that the Pats just opened up the bank for X player on opening day of FA.

[Bartin]

1 minute ago, stirs said:

year after year, the big players in FA are generally the losers in the NFL

You never hear for instance that the Pats just opened up the bank for X player on opening day of FA.

Except, you know, Darrelle Revis who was a major factor in them winning the Super Bowl two years ago.

[Zaximus]

10 hours ago, GoobyPls said:

Every SD fans wants Jalen Ramsey cause they are tired of seeing Weddle get burned LOL

 

But yeah keep think he's some prize possession, I don't like Boston but I would rather start him then waste money on a washed up Weddle 

Weddle as the #2 coverage safety at his position last year....

[Louie]

I want Weddle, but I don't see Gettleman paying big bucks for him, since he has to pay 14 million on Josh Norman. I see him trying to find a mid-tier DE. The Giants won both their SB's because of their defensive line and specifically their great DE play. Especially after the way we lost this year's SB, I think (or I'm hoping) Gettleman will be willing to open up the checkbook just a little more and get a quality starting DE to pair with Ealy. If Weddle will play for 6 million a year, maybe the Gman might do it, but I don't see him sinking a bunch of money in the secondary. He likes to build up his lines first with the hogmallies.

[AU-panther]

36 minutes ago, Bartin said:

Denver got Talib, Manning, TJ Ward and Sanders from free agency

New England got Revis and Browner

Seattle got Bennett and Avril

Baltimore got Bryant McKinnie and Anquan Boldin

New York got Antrel Rolle

Green Bay got Charles Woodson

New Orleans got Darren Sharper

Pittsburgh didn't really have anyone of note

New York got Plaxico Burress

Every Super Bowl champion since 2007(Not bothering to go back farther) except Pittsburgh in 2008 had a major pro bowl level prior to joining addition in free agency that signed big contracts.

According to Spotrac.com:

Sharper signed a 1yr/$1.2m deal the year before they won the super bowl.  If you are going to count him you have to count Coleman and Oher.

Charles Woodson signed with the Packers in 2006 and they won the super Bowl in 2011.  2010 was an extension.  You could almost view Olsen the same way, just lower per year average. 

 Plaxico signed in 2005 with the Giants and they won the super bowl in 2009.

Seattle won the SB in 2014.  Bennett was on a 1yr/$4.8m deal and Avril was on a 2yr/$13m deal.  Neither of which were the mega deals that some would have you believe.

While the Revis deal sounded huge at the start it turned out to be a one year rental at $12m.  Less then our one year rental for Hardy or Norman.  Same with Browner.  One year rental for a lot less then the overall salary made it sound.  His one year cost probably wasn't much less then Harper.

We spend as much as almost any team.  Just so happens alot of our "big money" goes to our own guys.  

CJ, DWill, Stew, and Kalil were all huge contracts when they were originally signed. Now it is Cam and Luke and Olsen.  In the future it will be KB, Ealy, Turner, Star, and Short.

I'm not saying we won't sign a big time free agent or we shouldn't, but this idea that winning a a Super Bowl is as easy as signing a big time free agent is a bit exaggerated.  

Also fans always think other teams are doing more then their teams.

Patriots sign Revis for one year for $12m and that counts for spending but us signing Hardy for one year for $13m doesn't?

New Orleans signs Sharper for $1.2m for one year and that counts as spending but Coleman for 2yrs for $2.8m doesn't?

With that being said we are finally to the point that we can spend some if we decide to.  What people have to look at is not only our cap space this year, it is also the cap space the nest few years  

I'm not worried about affording Star and Short.  We could sign a few quility free agents this year and still make it work.  The following draft class of KB, Ealy, and Short is the one that could make finances tights if we spend too much this year.  

Can we sign 2 free agents to 5yr/$50m deals this off season without hurting ourselves in the future?  probably not

2 free agents making 3yr/$24m?  probably

Personally I wouldn't mind us signing a few this year.  I don't see the compensatory pick formula working for us that well this year, we really aren't losing anyone who is going to command a large salary.  From that perspective it might be a good year to sign some UFAs.