Opinions: need a stout vet on other side of Ealy

[Jmac]

So we are down four dline men. Coples and two rookies won't cut it...need more than that. You can count the rookies out the first year or two at least. Need a playmaker besides Coples (if he is even signed).

 

[Peppers90 NC]

I wonder how Irving would look at DE

[Jai.]

I'm not sure yet who I like or dislike the most, either way.

[saX man]

The only costly FA I think we may go after is Robert Ayers.  If not, maybe it's a Williams Hayes or George Selvie and we draft a guy. 

[johnnydefence]

I believe DG will trade up in the first. He knows our team is loaded and there is no  reason to stack up a middle round draft picks that he somehow has to hide on the  practice squad. 

[KB_fan]

6 minutes ago, johnnydefence said:

I believe DG will trade up in the first. He knows our team is loaded and there is no  reason to stack up a middle round draft picks that he somehow has to hide on the  practice squad. 

Not so sure....  Possible, but only 4 draftees is an awfully small class.  Big risk if the guy you move up for gets injured or doesn't prove ready to plug & play.  Especially at DE, takes time to develop young guys. 

[imminent rogaine]

I don't see a DL splash happening unless some vet wants to take a cut for a title shot. Bring back love. Sign coples and clayborn to compete. Then draft a few Dts and DEs

[johnnydefence]

DG is trading up in the first or second. Look, There's limited roster spots & the cap $ r going to short, kk and Norman. No $ = limited FAs. He's not doing this because he's desperate he just doesn't want to cut the a draft pick. Cutting a pick is a waste. 

[brandon_87]

Love how everybody is saying Crist Long. You must have forgotten that some of you dipshits in the crowd threw a bottle and hit him in the face....he won't come here

[MHS831]

Here are a few things that are related--

The really like Miley as a developmental player--he has RDE tools.  I think they like Cox and Delaire as well.  Addison has a spot.  My point is this--if you sign a free agent and draft a player, you are going to have to get rid of some developmental talent or a seasoned veteran like Addison. 

I have no idea who they might sign and who they might draft, but I can say it looks to me as if it will be one or the other.

About Coples--He was released by the Dolphins after five games or so.  Cameron Wake is 34 and coming off an achilles injury.  Derrick Shelby is a free agent. 

And they released Coples.

Do any of you Coples fans know why a 4-3 team with such a need would release him?  Was it salary based?

[Bartin]

4 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

Here are a few things that are related--

The really like Miley as a developmental player--he has RDE tools.  I think they like Cox and Delaire as well.  Addison has a spot.  My point is this--if you sign a free agent and draft a player, you are going to have to get rid of some developmental talent or a seasoned veteran like Addison. 

I have no idea who they might sign and who they might draft, but I can say it looks to me as if it will be one or the other.

About Coples--He was released by the Dolphins after five games or so.  Cameron Wake is 34 and coming off an achilles injury.  Derrick Shelby is a free agent. 

And they released Coples.

Do any of you Coples fans know why a 4-3 team with such a need would release him?  Was it salary based?

Salary based. The Jets had picked up his 5th year option and that went with him when Miami claimed him off waivers so he was scheduled to make $8M which would have become fully guaranteed on March 9th. If you're familiar with Miami's cap, they just can't afford that.

[TheSpecialJuan]

8 hours ago, Bartin said:

Kony's best position in my opinion is at LE so what we need is a guy that excels at RE.

I really like William Hayes from the Rams but my main concern is that he mostly played as a LE last year. If we think he can be a good RE then he's the guy I would most like to bring in with a contract around 2/$8-10M.

Coples is a RE and we definitely have interest in him as shown by his visit, but it appears we are likely thinking of him as a DT.

Robert Ayers can play both ends and he would be a very good pickup.

Derrick Shelby is a younger, 27, RE and he played well after filling in for Cam Wake when he went down. He could be a very good signing.

JPP is strictly a RE, but there is that whole hand thing and he is not going to be cheap.

Chris Long and Mario Williams are pretty much exclusively LEs and would cost way more than they are worth.

The absolute perfect RE for us is available but I'm not even going to mention his name.

Nice work

[MHS831]

37 minutes ago, Bartin said:

Salary based. The Jets had picked up his 5th year option and that went with him when Miami claimed him off waivers so he was scheduled to make $8M which would have become fully guaranteed on March 9th. If you're familiar with Miami's cap, they just can't afford that.

Thanks---it makes me feel better about bringing him in.

[Kuech the Sneak]

Ayers and coples would be a good FA haul at DE. Then adding another end through the draft would complete the overhaul at the position that's much needed