REPORT: Panthers to re-sign WR Stephen Hill and T Mike Remmers

[Bartin]

Approximate RFA tender amounts are:

1st round: $3.5M

2nd round: $2.5M

Original round: $1.5M

If you tender and then someone else signs the player to an offer sheet then the tendering team can either match the offer or accept compensation equal to the tender value. For original round you get a pick that corresponds to where the player was originally drafted up to 2nd round. If the player was undrafted like Remmers then there is no compensation if you decline to match. It's similar to how the non-exclusive franchise tag works.

We would most likely do the 2nd round tender on Remmers because no one is giving up a 2nd round pick and a big contract for him, but they might if they didn't have to give up anything. The extra $1M is worth it to guarantee he is back.

For Hill since he was drafted in the 2nd round the original round tender is the exact same compensation wise as the 2nd round tender, so we would do that if we were to tender him but I see no reason to pay him that much when he could be had for minimum.

[TheSpecialJuan]

15 minutes ago, Bartin said:

Approximate RFA tender amounts are:

1st round: $3.5M

2nd round: $2.5M

Original round: $1.5M

If you tender and then someone else signs the player to an offer sheet then the tendering team can either match the offer or accept compensation equal to the tender value. For original round you get a pick that corresponds to where the player was originally drafted up to 2nd round. If the player was undrafted like Remmers then there is no compensation if you decline to match. It's similar to how the non-exclusive franchise tag works.

We would most likely do the 2nd round tender on Remmers because no one is giving up a 2nd round pick and a big contract for him, but they might if they didn't have to give up anything. The extra $1M is worth it to guarantee he is back.

For Hill since he was drafted in the 2nd round the original round tender is the exact same compensation wise as the 2nd round tender, so we would do that if we were to tender him but I see no reason to pay him that much when he could be had for minimum.

good info, thanks

[KSpan]

24 minutes ago, Bartin said:

Approximate RFA tender amounts are:

1st round: $3.5M

2nd round: $2.5M

Original round: $1.5M

If you tender and then someone else signs the player to an offer sheet then the tendering team can either match the offer or accept compensation equal to the tender value. For original round you get a pick that corresponds to where the player was originally drafted up to 2nd round. If the player was undrafted like Remmers then there is no compensation if you decline to match. It's similar to how the non-exclusive franchise tag works.

We would most likely do the 2nd round tender on Remmers because no one is giving up a 2nd round pick and a big contract for him, but they might if they didn't have to give up anything. The extra $1M is worth it to guarantee he is back.

For Hill since he was drafted in the 2nd round the original round tender is the exact same compensation wise as the 2nd round tender, so we would do that if we were to tender him but I see no reason to pay him that much when he could be had for minimum.

The transition tag is the one where no compensation is awarded if a tagging team doesn't match an offer. The non-exclusive franchise tag nets the tagging team 2 first-round picks if they choose not to match an offer, while the exclusive tag does not allow tagged players to negotiate with any other team.

[Bartin]

Just now, KSpan said:

The transition tag is the one where no compensation is awarded if a tagging team doesn't match an offer. The non-exclusive franchise tag nets the tagging team 2 first-round picks if they choose not to match an offer, while the exclusive tag does not allow tagged players to negotiate with any other team.

Yeah, I was referring to the process of tendering then being able to match or take compensation instead as being similar to the franchise tag since most people understand that. May not have been clear the way I wrote it.

[Mr. Scot]

Alexander might be re-signed.  Just might be to a cheap offer rather than one of the tenders.

Pretty well guaranteed that if he is, this is his last chance.

[hepcat]

5 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Alexander might be re-signed.  Just might be to a cheap offer rather than one of the tenders.

Pretty well guaranteed that if he is, this is his last chance.

Even if they re-sign him, Alexander is suspended for another year.  He's never playing for the Panthers again.

 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/11/24/panthers-de-frank-alexander-suspended-a-year-for-drug-violation/

[Mr. Scot]

7 minutes ago, hepcat said:

Even if they re-sign him, Alexander is suspended for another year.  He's never playing for the Panthers again.

 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/11/24/panthers-de-frank-alexander-suspended-a-year-for-drug-violation/

I'd forgotten about the additional suspension. 

In light of that, I agree. He's not coming back.

[KillerKat]

Can we get some receivers that can actually catch the god damn ball?

[TheSpecialJuan]

10 minutes ago, KillerKat said:

Can we get some receivers that can actually catch the god damn ball?

no

[PanthersGOATFan336]

We sourcing ESPN now?

[CPantherKing]

6 hours ago, Bartin said:

Don't know why we would bother with the tender for Hill. It's more expensive than the minimum and it's not like someone else is going to sign him.

Stephen Hill is Cam Newton's guy. They played ball in Atlanta.

[TheSpecialJuan]

2 hours ago, PanthersGOATFan336 said:

We sourcing ESPN now?

It's either that or your boy Joe Person

[KB_fan]

12 hours ago, TheSpecialJuan said:

And not Frank Alexander

I think basically we don't have to do ANYTHING with Frank until late November.  He's suspended through then.  Can't play with any team.  Can't practice.  Doesn't get any pay. 

So, I could be wrong, but I would assume that even if there's a chance the team wants him back and is willing to give him yet ANOTHER chance, it's not a question that needs to be addressed any time soon. We'll have a much better position to know if there's a need for him or possible role for him on our Dline come September - October.

[Khyber53]

Alexander, if he is smart (and let's be real, he's not), should be shooting for the 2017 season. Work hard on cleaning up, get some coaching on a daily basis and earn his way back to being an athlete. Otherwise he's just another guy with immense potential that threw it all away for nothing. If he doesn't work himself near to death to get it back, I wouldn't even bother sending someone by to check on him. There's plenty of guys out there killing it for just a tenth of the chance Alexander has had.

Hill, meh. Hasn't lived up to that 2nd round pick and hasn't had much of a chance here due to injury. Sad breaks, but he should at least get a shot through training camp to see if he can really do anything. 

Remmers is money well spent by us. The guy did pretty well for us last year, short of the Superb Owl when he got hung out to dry by the team. If Remmers is your problem on the O-line, then you really don't have much of a problem. If we went into next year with him as starting RT, I wouldn't bat an eye or worry like I have in the past. He's above average to good, and that's rarer to find than you'd think at this level of play.