13 million under cap after Norman?

[Mr. Scot]

2 hours ago, Jmac said:

Word has it Coples left without a contract....which is not promising.

As did Jerricho Cotchery, Michael Oher, Ted Ginn and others.

Doesn't necessarily mean they won't be signed.

[Bartin]

2 hours ago, KB_fan said:

Question:  What cap implications are there to locking up a contract with Short this offseason?  I've still not really done research to understand how NFL contracts work. 

Given that Short still has one more year under contract, if he were to sign an extension for a pretty major contract (10 mil+ per year) now, is it possible to defer that cap hit until 2017, or does that money need to be available in our cap for this season?

The way it works to sign a guy on a rookie deal with a year left is that it would be an extension. The base salary will stay the same in 2016, but you give them a huge bonus which is prorated over the next 5 years. Short has a $1.5M base so say we gave him a $30M signing bonus then a fifth of that would hit the cap this year for a total cap hit of $7.5M. The big base salaries would start in 2017 so the large cap hits would still be a year away. You can also use a guaranteed 2017 roster bonus that you convert into signing bonus to further spread out the cap hits.

[Nate Dogg]

If Harper is gone we are going to need a safety.

[Snake]

Honestly l doubt we will make much of a splash. CJ while over paid is probably better than Williams at this point and Williams is not going to come cheap with Vernon tagged. I would like to see us pick up a CB but there will be other teams with twice our money over paying. My hope is we bring in a TE or some depth at OL. 

[KB_fan]

Thanks @Bartin for all the helpful replies today about contracts.  Learned alot.  Much appreciate the time you've taken to explain how KK & Star's contracts might work and affect the cap.

[csx]

4 hours ago, X-Clown on 1 said:

You're also forgetting about the $8.5 mil that will be freed up, once Allen officially retires.

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/carolina-panthers/cap/

 

In this accounting he has officially retired and they have taken his salary off 

[Bartin]

23 minutes ago, KB_fan said:

Thanks @Bartin for all the helpful replies today about contracts.  Learned alot.  Much appreciate the time you've taken to explain how KK & Star's contracts might work and affect the cap.

No problem. The more that people know about how contracts and the salary cap work, the more constructive the conversation about them can be.

[TheSpecialJuan]

http://espn.go.com/blog/carolina-panthers/post/_/id/19928/panthers-still-have-more-than-15-million-in-cap-space-after-tagging-josh-norman

ESPN says we're more than 15 million under.

[Ivan The Awesome]

7 hours ago, Bartin said:

Only need about $2M in cap room to sign the rookie class due to how the top 51 rule works. Being at the end of the 1st makes that very manageable.

I'm pretty sure it's close to 5 million but if it's less, sweet sauce man. Gettleman can do a lot with little. 

[MV%doe]

These replys give me hope. Some posters know how much the panthers truly have, not much after all the figuring.

 

So that means don't get upset when Dave's doesn't sign any big name during the first two weeks of free agency. Be more of the same form past years dollar store, bargin bin, and dumpster driving FYI!!!! Goos to save those pennies to resign KK, star, Kevin Benjamin, early, etc etc.

[imminent rogaine]

Give me boldin and weddle, some no-name depth, draft some DEs and call it a day

[LxDunn]

8 hours ago, Snake said:

Honestly l doubt we will make much of a splash. CJ while over paid is probably better than Williams at this point and Williams is not going to come cheap with Vernon tagged. I would like to see us pick up a CB but there will be other teams with twice our money over paying. My hope is we bring in a TE or some depth at OL. 

Charles Johnson is not better than Mario Williams, come on man. 

[General_Purr]

Sign Star. 

 

[TheSpecialJuan]

59 minutes ago, General_Purr said:

Sign Star. 

 

We're going to pick up his 5th year option any day now.