Mike & Mike on Jake......

[Debil]

It could be that he hasn't lost much of anything... rather other teams have just figured him out

[CAPantherFan]

My thing with Matt Moore is that I'd rather watch him struggle than Jake. With Moore you know with every INT he throws he's learning a lesson (he's only 24) with Jake you know that he's only getting worse.

Agreed.

[Carolinaguy]

Replay the games where Jake has had bad outings. The opposing defense rattles him, and he has this bad habit of going long. Where the hell are the slants and two running back sets to pass out of the backfield? Why cant he chip away rather than go for home run passes? And when has he shovel passed to his blocking running back? Its a 1st and 10 game......

[Proudiddy]

It could be that he hasn't lost much of anything... rather other teams have just figured him out

I would agree, but watching his body language, I can't... It seems he's doing more of it to himself than opponents are. He always had happy feet, but now he's starting to dance as soon as he pulls out from center, way before blitzes even come. He was doing it before Philly even started coming after him in teh 1st quarter. His eyes on the replays look like "I'm going to f*ck up! oh no!!!" right before he passes. He just looks like a totally different QB. I'd say he's lost some velocity on his throws too, but there were several throws he made last year (Rosario in SD, and one to King that I remember) that were absolute rockets.

I just think his game was predicated on clutch play at clutch times, and despite some hiccups, coming through when it counted. He doesn't have that mojo anymore.

[CatMan72]

If we have to give Jake the hook, I'd rather see them put Moore out there so we can build something for the future.

[Jangler]

Replay the games where Jake has had bad outings. The opposing defense rattles him, and he has this bad habit of going long. Where the hell are the slants and two running back sets to pass out of the backfield? Why cant he chip away rather than go for home run passes? And when has he shovel passed to his blocking running back? Its a 1st and 10 game......

Davidson plays a lot of Madden. Madden = reality

[Jgigs]

I've never been a Jake fan and never thought much of him, but I don't care who was behind center last Sunday it wouldn't have mattered. The Panthers O-line was just lost out there.

I think it's still too early to pull Jake just yet. But if he has another horrible game, you gotta see what someone else can do.

[beastson]

Wow these are like the first analysts(if you really call mike and mike football analysts) that said keep Jake out

Everybody else said he gives us the best chance to win and keep him in

[SMACKDAB]

Wow these are like the first analysts(if you really call mike and mike football analysts) that said keep Jake out

Everybody else said he gives us the best chance to win and keep him in

I like Golic, but Greenie is a metrosexual pussy that just happens to have the gift for gab.

At least Golic played, and knows the inner workings of how NFL football really works..... to a certain degree.

[CRA]

Replay the games where Jake has had bad outings. The opposing defense rattles him, and he has this bad habit of going long. Where the hell are the slants and two running back sets to pass out of the backfield? Why cant he chip away rather than go for home run passes? And when has he shovel passed to his blocking running back? Its a 1st and 10 game......

Tampa. Jake wasn't rattled by pressure.....too much passing and he threw the ball up for guys to make plays.

Oak. Jake wasn't rattled by pressure. Too many deep balls against a pretty good secondary.

AZ. Jake wasn't rattled by pressure. Asked Jake to basically be a passing QB early.....

Philly, repeat of AZ.

Jake isn't that good....asking him to do all this unneeded early passing is Carolina CHOOSING to beat themselves.

Fox has a so-called running football team that TAKES ITSELF out of the running game. In every ass kicking the coaches are asking Jake to go downfield WAY to often and it isn't needed......that is why we get behind. We aren't passing b/c we are getting beat......we are getting beat b/c we pass too much. Jake has been HORRIFIC lately.....then only thing worse has been Fox's coaching calls....and they have been worse than what Jake is doing. Fox is creating this new and improved bad Jake.

[MadHatter]

Tampa. Jake wasn't rattled by pressure.....too much passing and he threw the ball up for guys to make plays.

Oak. Jake wasn't rattled by pressure. Too many deep balls against a pretty good secondary.

AZ. Jake wasn't rattled by pressure. Asked Jake to basically be a passing QB early.....

Philly, repeat of AZ.

Jake isn't that good....asking him to do all this unneeded early passing is Carolina CHOOSING to beat themselves.

Fox has a so-called running football team that TAKES ITSELF out of the running game. In every ass kicking the coaches are asking Jake to go downfield WAY to often and it isn't needed......that is why we get behind. We aren't passing b/c we are getting beat......we are getting beat b/c we pass too much. Jake has been HORRIFIC lately.....then only thing worse has been Fox's coaching calls....and they have been worse than what Jake is doing. Fox is creating this new and improved bad Jake.

What do you mean Jake was not rattled by pressure in the Arizona or Philly games? Did you even watch the game? He was battered and beaten on every pass attempt. Even the OLine admitted they let him get hit way too often.

[panthers55]

What do you mean Jake was not rattled by pressure in the Arizona or Philly games? Did you even watch the game? He was battered and beaten on every pass attempt. Even the OLine admitted they let him get hit way too often.

Stop trying to interject logic and reality, it gets in the way of the constant bashing and over the hill statements. No one had any hand in it but jake. It is all his fault and bringing in Moore or anybody else will instantly fix everything.

[rippadonn]

The season has started. Unfortunately offseason and preseason are the time for any rebuilding. We got what we got. They are what they are: NFC South Champions. That hasn't changed yet.

[CRA]

What do you mean Jake was not rattled by pressure in the Arizona or Philly games? Did you even watch the game? He was battered and beaten on every pass attempt. Even the OLine admitted they let him get hit way too often.

It is playcalling more than Jake. Why is he throwing so much so early? Carolina's offense is EXTREMELY predictable....makes it easy to apply pressure when you know if it is a run or pass.....or when they literally repeat the same plays over and over in the same game. Go back and look at the all the actual picks.....you can chaulk most of them up to just a poor decisions. Why are you asking Jake so early to be put into those situations. It all comes back to coaching/playcalling. The worst thing Carolina can do is have a nice long drive to open a game......they show all there cards and gameplan offensively. Teams can then tee-off and call 80% of the plays before they happen. Too many opponents have commented over the past few years about Carolina standing out b/c of predictability.