Ammunition for those wanting WR upgrades... Official Dropped Pass Yardage

[SIGCHI222]

33 minutes ago, SCMunnerlyn1 said:

One thing that can help is just throwing a more catchable ball at times. Some times those rockets are unnecessary particularly to the running backs whom dropped several as I recall. 

Really?

[KB_fan]

31 minutes ago, Daeavorn said:

Also considering that we have Stephen Hill on the practice squad, with cotchery's contract voided we dont really have a sure-handed guy outside of Bersin and im not sure if he stays on the team next year.

Until he proves otherwise, I wouldn't want to count Stephen Hill in the sure hands category!!  His hands looked pretty bad when he was with the Jets, and I wasn't necessarily seeing what folks were excited about in training camp.

There's Norwood too.  I forget what folks have said about his hands.   DG went out of his way during the Combine to say they were pleased with his progress.

Bersin could certainly be a possession receiver.  He played well when Cotch was injured.  He makes clutch catches for 1st downs.  But he doesn't add any YAC.

[Daeavorn]

Just now, KB_fan said:

Until he proves otherwise, I wouldn't want to count Stephen Hill in the sure hands category!!  His hands looked pretty bad when he was with the Jets, and I wasn't necessarily seeing what folks were excited about in training camp.

There's Norwood too.  Forget what folks have said about his hands.   Bersin could certainly be a possession receiver.  He played well when Cotch was injured.  He makes clutch catches for 1st downs.  But he doesn't add any YAC.

Yeah there are a few sure handed guys in this draft id love us to get. Trevor Davis I think his name was. He ran a really nice 40 and had really good hands. Like DG we are always trying to get better so i really hope we pick up one WR. Maybe not draft a RB this year.

[Peppers90 NC]

18 minutes ago, Cracka McNasty said:

Oh I know, but that's like half of the yardage on dropped balls right there alone, and none of those were rocket balls by any means. 

The ball placement on the Jacksonville drop made that one pretty difficult. All the other ones though should have been fairly easy catches.

[Peppers90 NC]

18 minutes ago, Mvp2014 said:

We could really use a burner that CAN catch.  TY Hilton would be amazing beside KB and Funch

Even he drops balls. Pretty sure he dropped a gimme versus us.

[tondi]

Not that the current group couldn't be better, but I have a hard time seeing DG spending a first or second round pick on a WR for three years in a row, especially with our current offensive philosophy.

[Zaximus]

Now that Jeffery is off the board, who would we think about?

Benjamin may get overpaid, but would like that.  Sanu/Marvin Jones maybe.

I wouldn't mind bringing in a vet like Boldin.  He still has some in the tank and can make those hard catches over the middle.  Not a burner but he's sure handed and a decent end-zone threat.  

[KB_fan]

Just now, tondi said:

Not that the current group couldn't be better, but I have a hard time seeing DG spending a first or second round pick on a WR for three years in a row, especially with our current offensive philosophy.

Agree.  Especially not when 1) This WR class doesn't look so impressive.  and 2) the draft is DEEP at DLine & CB - positions we definitely need to strengthen.

I could see someone like Pharoh Cooper  or DE'RUNNYA WILSON, or possibly Sterling Shepard falling to the 3rd though, at least based on the early mock drafts I've played with.  That could obviously change as the combine results are factored in. (Sterling seems like he will move up... not sure about the others)

[Ricky Spanish]

13 minutes ago, Peppers90 NC said:

The ball placement on the Jacksonville drop made that one pretty difficult. All the other ones though should have been fairly easy catches.

I originally disagreed with you but after re-watching it, yeah it was thrown back shoulder when he was streaking for the endzone so it was a slightly more difficult catch, however I don't think it was so difficult that he should have had as much trouble catching it as he did

[juliosantos]

question is how many tds would ginn have had if he dident drop all those tds? he could of had easily 5 more tds 

[thefuzz]

This isn't as big a deal as some of you are making it.

Partly this can be attributed to our WR's, and the fact that only Cotch is known for his hands out of our "starting" 3 from 2015.

Another thing to consider is the offense we run, and the big plays that we attempt a couple times per game.  I'm guessing we are top 10 in the NFL in those "big play" attempts.

But, that's not to say that even the dropped bombs, aren't working.  They are doing a job, weather Ginn catches them or not.  You keep the defense honest when you attempt a few of those per game, and you wear out the defense by having them cover 30-40 yards downfield.  

Those plays typically have 4 things that can happen, 1 is bad, 1 is OK, and 2 are great.  The defense could intercept the ball, that is the bad.  The WR doesn't catch the ball, that is OK.  The WR catches the ball, or gets a defensive holding/interference, that is great.

When you run a Coryell system, you are going to leave yards on the field...you are also going to demoralize a defense when you hit those 60 yard plays.

[Khyber53]

Might be easier and cheaper to just start lobbying the NFL to bring back Stick'em than to replace Ginn. Ginn can blow the top right off the defense and sometimes he can catch the ball and do something amazing.

And some days it's like he had hands of Teflon.

[cdandi1]

[Mvp2014]

42 minutes ago, Peppers90 NC said:

Even he drops balls. Pretty sure he dropped a gimme versus us.

Still, I think he would be a huge upgrade and make Cam's life much easier on 2nd and 3rd downs.  Dude goes hard over the middle too