JPP, Giants not close to a deal

[The Lone Panther]

We don't need a vet DE, just double dip in the draft.  Cheaper option than spending millions on a washed up has-been. 

[Riverboat Ron]

Would rather bring in Quinton Coples for cheaper.

[O-Ther]

I'd rather try to lure Jared Allen out of retirement and pay him that $8 million he could have gotten this year than sign a disabled DE for $9-10 million. At least Jared was able to tally 2 sacks and could make wrap-up tackles. I can remember JPP trying to wrap up Stewie and go sliding off because he couldn't use his disabled hand to wrap Stewie up.

Hellz NO

 

[Ace_Aladdin]

48 minutes ago, JakeH said:

People are too caught up in the hand injury that JPP suffered and not focusing enough on his 41 QB pressures and 6 batted passes in half a season of play. Obviously the sack numbers weren't there but when you make the QB move his feet, good things usually happen. 

Our DL rotates at a good rate, but injuires at DE has dropped production, JPP would become a solid contributior and bring veteran experience.

[KillerKat]

29 minutes ago, O-Ther said:

I'd rather try to lure Jared Allen out of retirement and pay him that $8 million he could have gotten this year than sign a disabled DE for $9-10 million. At least Jared was able to tally 2 sacks and could make wrap-up tackles. I can remember JPP trying to wrap up Stewie and go sliding off because he couldn't use his disabled hand to wrap Stewie up.

Hellz NO

 

He wouldn't have that cast on anymore which was already explained in here a couple times. Missing 1 or 2 fingers isn't going to make a DE turn bad. If you ever have seen old linemen from back in the day, half their fingers were bent to hell and they still were able to play. You guys are way over exaggerating this.

[uncfan888]

3 hours ago, CarolinaJami' said:

Very risky move IMO. But if Gettleman brings him in I will assume he knows something we don't.

You're saying there may be something you can't quite put your finger on? 

[jdpanther5]

Would certainly be an explosive addition...

Sorry, but honestly, the hand scares me. 

[SCP]

[O-Ther]

17 minutes ago, KillerKat said:

He wouldn't have that cast on anymore which was already explained in here a couple times. Missing 1 or 2 fingers isn't going to make a DE turn bad. If you ever have seen old linemen from back in the day, half their fingers were bent to hell and they still were able to play. You guys are way over exaggerating this.

He had yet another hand surgery in the HOPE he can play without a cast. I wouldn't drop $9-10 million on hopes and prayers. He's not playing with mangled fingers. They are missing. Gone. Big difference

[ctrcat]

^ Playing is one thing, especially in a small timeframe.  But NEVER having a part of your hand again while doing lifts and conditioning drills can't be understated either when extra reps and inches are everything.  

[The Lone Panther]

But has GM even signed a big name d-lineman in the free agency since he's been here?  I think he's going to use our cap money to upgrade the secondary and focus on the d-line in the draft.  

[The Huddler]

Can he grab anyone?  Can he impact his hand against another player in a rip/swim move? Can he fire his hands into the chest of a blocker violently?   Can he get in a stance and put all of his weight on that hand??  

 

I just dont see it. Plus hes a fugging idiot. I mean..  Look what he did to himself.     

[Hotsauce]

Problem solved...

[d-dave]

JPP won't ever get that $10 million a year.  Look at his behavior and his hand coupled with his age.  Sure, 27 isn't too bad, but he's had a TON of surgeries on that hand.  As someone said, his arm isn't as developed as the other due to not being able to exercise it.  JPP still made pressure, which is great.  But how will his hand affect his conditioning for the rest of his career?  It's going to take more modification of routines to get him physically whole again.

If Gman believes in JPP, and he can get him at the right price, cool.  He can put pressure, and he should be able to get people wrapped up by the season.  But he won't get $10 million a year from us.  He'll have to take a SB or Bust discount to sign here.