Josh Norman Contract talks have stalled, bruh is getting the franchise tag.

[enikville]

On 2/29/2016 at 1:43 PM, TheNewStandard said:

And neither should he. Any player willing to hold-up the progress of this organization is a cancer and we brought Coleman off the couch and he went plum-nuts gonzo while taking the shine off of the year J-No had...seriously, a guy off the couch.

What exactly do you mean by on the couch? He played all of the 2014 season with the Chiefs. In fact, he led them in INT's.

[Bartin]

42 minutes ago, carpanfan96 said:

Last two seasons, Norman's rated higher then Revis. Norman can cover both sides and does so, he just doesn't go into the slot. That's a big difference then covering from RCB and LCB. 

 

Also it isn't me saying Norman is worth that, it's the market for corners that says he's worth around 14 a season. 

Personally, I'd offer him a 4 year deal worth 55 million. 28.1 million guaranteed with about 12 in signing bonuses, another 16.1 in fully guaranteed salary in seasons 1 and 2. 

Seasons break down 7+3, 9.1+3, 11.83+3, 15.38+3. Average salary is right under 14 million. Follows NFL's contract rules that I know of.

That way if his play falls off after year 2 you can cut bait and save money in year 3 with a 6 million cap hit if cut compared to a total cap hit of nearly 15 million. 

I'd happily do that deal and I think his agent might as well, but you would probably have to shift $2M from the final year and add $1M to each of the first two years which would increase the guarantee to $30.1M. Low bonus and high initial year guarantees is the way a long term deal gets done if it happens. He gets the comfort of a ton of guaranteed money and injury protection and we get an out after two years if he underperforms. It's not ideal from either side and that's what makes it a good deal. No clear winner.

[Carl Spackler]

TheNewStandard sets the new standard for ignorance

[nctarheel0619]

2 minutes ago, Carl Spackler said:

TheNewStandard sets the new standard for ignorance

At least I admit I was stupid with the thread titles, now I can't do them.  Sad.  :(

[Carl Spackler]

6 minutes ago, nctarheel0619 said:

At least I admit I was stupid with the thread titles, now I can't do them.  Sad.  :(

[TheNewStandard]

1 hour ago, enikville said:

What exactly do you mean by on the couch? He played all of the 2014 season with the Chiefs. In fact, he led them in INT's.

I thought he came in without being on a team. That's off the couch irregardless of who he played with the previous year. But I don't know if he came off their practice squad via waivers or what. 

[Bartin]

2 minutes ago, TheNewStandard said:

I thought he came in without being on a team. That's off the couch irregardless of who he played with the previous year. But I don't know if he came off their practice squad via waivers or what. 

He was the Chiefs 3rd S in 2014, played in 15 games, starting 3, and finished with 3 INTs, leading the team. With Eric Berry coming back from cancer he was surplus to their needs and they let him go in free agency.

[JawnyBlaze]

2 hours ago, enikville said:

What exactly do you mean by on the couch? He played all of the 2014 season with the Chiefs. In fact, he led them in INT's.

Some people aren't all that concerned with little things like facts and accuracy. 

[TheNewStandard]

3 hours ago, Bartin said:

He was the Chiefs 3rd S in 2014, played in 15 games, starting 3, and finished with 3 INTs, leading the team. With Eric Berry coming back from cancer he was surplus to their needs and they let him go in free agency.

So we got him off the couch in other words, right? 

[PantherCam213]

2 minutes ago, TheNewStandard said:

So we got him off the couch in other words, right? 

No. He was signed during the offseason.  Off the couch infers that he sat out at least one game, but I think you know that.

[therealmjl]

4 minutes ago, PantherCam213 said:

No. He was signed during the offseason.  Off the couch infers that he sat out at least one game, but I think you know that.

I wouldn't give him that credit

[Bartin]

43 minutes ago, TheNewStandard said:

So we got him off the couch in other words, right? 

Yeah, just like how we got Cam off a couch when he was drafted...

[TheSpecialJuan]

[the butch]

saw this coming way back before the season began after Josh didn't want to sign and made it public he wanted big bucks.  Nipple shorts giving Josh the Kirk Cousins treatment.