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Can we please get this guy on the Hornets? We need this type of attitude down low.

nctarheel0619

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2 hours ago, Promethean Forerunner said:

Whiteside's fiercest opponent is himself.

When he's on point and in control, there's nobody that can stop him in the paint. Not Howard. Not Cousins. Not Jefferson. Etc etc etc. That said, he's an egotistical player. He's looking to fluff his stats so he can get paid. However, he's worked his ass off to get to this level and that chip on his shoulder only enhances his intensity.

Bynum doesn't touch Whiteside. Andrew never came close to averaging what Hassan has overall. He deserves to get paid and is definitely worth the risk. Centers like him don't grow on trees.

Anybody that wants Whiteside needs to take a long look at this^ post and think back to the 2014 offseason. And unlike Lance, Whiteside's next desl won't be team-friendly.

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31 minutes ago, AppHeel said:

All the money it would take to sign Whiteside needs to go to Batum instead. Would much rather retain him than get Hassan.

We'll have enough money for Batum and Whiteside.  Almost everybody is going off the books this offseason but Kemba and Spencer Hawes.  

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53 minutes ago, nctarheel0619 said:

We'll have enough money for Batum and Whiteside.  Almost everybody is going off the books this offseason but Kemba and Spencer Hawes.  

Can you elaborate on that? Because MKG, Cody, Frank, Harrison and Lamb are all coming back. So with Kemba and Hawes that's 7 players. I imagine, we'll retain Troy Daniels and then we have a draft pick to sign.

I know a couple of people with connections inside the Hornets org and from what I've heard, the offseason priorities are as such:

Batum is the top priority and will get a max offer

Jeremy Lin is the next priority, but the FO knows that he's unlikely to sign back at a price that works for them

Big Al apparently is someone the FO wants back, but at a reduced price and to serve as a sub and not a starter.

Not sure about Courtney Lee and FO apparently believes Marvin Williams will take a big pay day elsewhere.

So if Batum comes back on the max and Al comes back at a reduced rate (which we don't know what that looks like), that's 11 players back with four spots open on the roster. Idk if we will have the cap space to get Hassan as well given what he will demand on the market and understanding that we have additional roster spots to fill. I could see the scenario MAYBE happening if we went through a couple loop holes like using the MLE or buying out Lee's bird rights that essentially allow us to work around the cap number.

That being said, as talented as he is, I'm not sold that Whiteside is a good fit long term for this team based purely on his me first attitude on the court and inconsistency off the court. 

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13 minutes ago, AppHeel said:

Can you elaborate on that? Because MKG, Cody, Frank, Harrison and Lamb are all coming back. So with Kemba and Hawes that's 7 players. I imagine, we'll retain Troy Daniels and then we have a draft pick to sign.

I know a couple of people with connections inside the Hornets org and from what I've heard, the offseason priorities are as such:

Batum is the top priority and will get a max offer

Jeremy Lin is the next priority, but the FO knows that he's unlikely to sign back at a price that works for them

Big Al apparently is someone the FO wants back, but at a reduced price and to serve as a sub and not a starter.

Not sure about Courtney Lee and FO apparently believes Marvin Williams will take a big pay day elsewhere.

So if Batum comes back on the max and Al comes back at a reduced rate (which we don't know what that looks like), that's 11 players back with four spots open on the roster. Idk if we will have the cap space to get Hassan as well given what he will demand on the market and understanding that we have additional roster spots to fill. I could see the scenario MAYBE happening if we went through a couple loop holes like using the MLE or buying out Lee's bird rights that essentially allow us to work around the cap number.

That being said, as talented as he is, I'm not sold that Whiteside is a good fit long term for this team based purely on his me first attitude on the court and inconsistency off the court. 

Uh God, yeah.  I forgot about the contract extensions for Lamb, the waste of space that is Frank, the guy that can't stay healthy that is MKG, I don't even count Harrison's contract because he's not getting paid anything.  I think Batum will get the max, and we'll have plenty of Salary cap left over for another player.  But if they try to bring back Lin, and Jefferson that screams mediocrity.

Also, Zeller is a team option from what I understand.  And that option is 5 million dollars, and that dude is not worth 5 million dollars.   

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11 minutes ago, nctarheel0619 said:

Uh God, yeah.  I forgot about the contract extensions for Lamb, the waste of space that is Frank, the guy that can't stay healthy that is MKG, I don't even count Harrison's contract because he's not getting paid anything.  I think Batum will get the max, and we'll have plenty of Salary cap left over for another player.  But if they try to bring back Lin, and Jefferson that screams mediocrity.

Also, Zeller is a team option from what I understand.  And that option is 5 million dollars, and that dude is not worth 5 million dollars.   

I'm pretty positive they picked his option up. With Al, I don't think that the Hornets are committed to bringing him back necessarily, but if he comes back at the right price (which I don't know what that looks like) and accepts coming off the bench then they will work to do so. Al has been good off the bench in his defense. And if he accepts that as his role then he probably can extend his career a couple of years. 

Lin won't come back. He fits better here than any team he's been on before because he gets consistent minutes and freedom with the ball when he's on the floor. He needs both to be successful. Depending on his situation, he will probably regress, but he won't regress in Charlotte. That means that signing a quality backup point guard will be a priority this summer.

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This team really needs both of Batum and Lin but I think Lin walks. 

 

This is team is only effective with Kemba when there is another guy on the court that moves the ball. Whether that was McBob two years ago or Batum and Lin this year, the Hornets will sink to 35 wins very quickly if they don't have another facilitator and preferably two. 

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Lin is on a 2 year deal (player option).. plus we are the first team he has played for that hasn't made him the whipping boy for the team's short-comings.. He really likes it here and I think we like him too. Lin has been awesome for us off the bench. We just need to improve the rest of the bench.

http://www.spotrac.com/nba/charlotte-hornets/cap/2016/

2016 season:
Kemba - $12
MKG - $13
Hawes - $5.8
Zeller - $5.3
Lamb - $7
Frank - $2.7
Lin - $2.2 (player option)

2016 Roster: $48 mil
2016 CAP: $89 mil
CAP SPACE: $41 mil

Batum will be an 8 yr vet - Max Deal is worth $17.7 mill <<<< That's a lot, but we have to retain him. That still leaves us with $23.3 mil to build our roster remaining in our Cap.

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