Panthers Going After Derrick Henry in the Draft?? Please let It Be So

[TheNewStandard]

On February 26, 2016 at 9:33 PM, jayflip said:

I'd be super intrigued by this pick. 

BPA. We may not "need" an RB right now, but we didn't "need" a LB last year either. BPfugingA.  

I don't know too much about college ball and haven't jumped headfirst into the draft talk this year yet. How is he in relation to the other running backs coming out?

We needed a wlb that could hold his own in coverage. There's a reason TD had so many sacks last season and I attribute that to Shaq and his ability to cover and get after the ball carrier. Not to mention that Shaq will be TDs replacement in a couple of years. 

Great value pick if you ask me.

Stewart has 1-2 years of ball-handling duties left in him because of all the injuries and CAP/Fozzy are on the mold of change of pace backs. It would be wise to take a flyer on a feature-back if he is available at our pick for the same reasons we took Shaq.

[Panther_Brotherhood]

On 2/27/2016 at 7:00 AM, unicar15 said:

I know...I mean none of those guys ever turned out to be monsters at RB. 

 

You argue the two best RBs talent wise in NFL history were upright runners. Adrian Peterson and Bo Jackson...

The only similarity between Henry and Bo is that they played in the state of Alabama and won a Heisman.  Bo Jackson was a transcendent talent who could've been in the hall of fame for two sports if he doesn't have his injury.  Henry had the benefit of playing behind one of the best/biggest Offensive Lines in college football.  I'm not saying that Henry isn't a great back, but I'm not sure that hes a first round talent.  His lateral quickness is no where near the ability of AP or Bo.  He lacks initial burst and quickness.  If you watch videos of him run, a lot of his highlights, especially from the past season, he goes untouched.  Going untouched to the endzone is a great indicator of a dominant offensive line controlling the LoS. 

Bo Jackson is 6'1" and ran 4.12 40 at 230 lbs (playing weight)

AP is 6'1" and ran a 4.4 40 at 217 lbs (Combine weight)

Henry is 6'3" and ran a 4.54 at 247 lbs (Combine weight)

 

Your argument that his style of running bodes well because of two other "upright" style runners have been successful, but its clear that AP and Bo are two completely different beast.  Henry is a downhill runner, and can be really successful with a team that utilizes a zone blocking scheme.  But hes a complete different type of runner from Bo or AP who could make one cut and blow everyone away.

[top dawg]

By the way, for those that are paying attention, Derrick Henry showed excellent hands at Alabama's pro day, as he filled in because they didn't have enough receivers. 

http://www.news4jax.com/web/wjxt/sports/derrick-henry-shines-at-alabama-pro-day

For what it's worth, Mike Mayock believes that Henry will go in the second, but only because the position is devalued (which really means that he believes that Henry is a true first rounder).  

[The Huddler]

On 2/29/2016 at 8:39 AM, Panther_Brotherhood said:

The only similarity between Henry and Bo is that they played in the state of Alabama and won a Heisman.  Bo Jackson was a transcendent talent who could've been in the hall of fame for two sports if he doesn't have his injury.  Henry had the benefit of playing behind one of the best/biggest Offensive Lines in college football.  I'm not saying that Henry isn't a great back, but I'm not sure that hes a first round talent.  His lateral quickness is no where near the ability of AP or Bo.  He lacks initial burst and quickness.  If you watch videos of him run, a lot of his highlights, especially from the past season, he goes untouched.  Going untouched to the endzone is a great indicator of a dominant offensive line controlling the LoS. 

Bo Jackson is 6'1" and ran 4.12 40 at 230 lbs (playing weight)

AP is 6'1" and ran a 4.4 40 at 217 lbs (Combine weight)

Henry is 6'3" and ran a 4.54 at 247 lbs (Combine weight)

 

Your argument that his style of running bodes well because of two other "upright" style runners have been successful, but its clear that AP and Bo are two completely different beast.  Henry is a downhill runner, and can be really successful with a team that utilizes a zone blocking scheme.  But hes a complete different type of runner from Bo or AP who could make one cut and blow everyone away.

4.12?   Yeah,  your argument is valid

[WOW!!]

I'd rather have a DE, CB, Safety,  DT, OT, TE and WR all in that order before a RB..

[PantherWake]

IF we raft Henry, it better be in the 5th round or lower

[Bartin]

I'd be begrudgingly happy Elliott at 30. Not Henry.

[top dawg]

39 minutes ago, WOW!! said:

I'd rather have a DE, CB, Safety,  DT, OT, TE and WR all in that order before a RB..

I used to think that same way, but Gettleman has swayed my philosophical penchant on the matter. Drafting for need can get very dicey depending upon the talent level.  If you draft the BPA, then you'll probably be better in the long run, that's why filling holes in free agency is so important.  

In this case, if Henry is deemed the BPA (RB or not), then I will give Dave Gettleman the benefit of the doubt because he has earned that as far as i am concerned.  

[KSpan]

55 minutes ago, The Huddler said:

4.12?   Yeah,  your argument is valid

Interesting article on the topic.

http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2015/02/is_bo_jackson_the_true_record-.html

[tiger7_88]

29 minutes ago, KSpan said:

Interesting article on the topic.

http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2015/02/is_bo_jackson_the_true_record-.html

Also...

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=14869826

 

[tiger7_88]

2 hours ago, top dawg said:

By the way, for those that are paying attention, Derrick Henry showed excellent hands at Clemson's pro day, as he filled in because they didn't have receivers. 

Damn, that was nice of Henry to travel all the way over to Clemson SC to help out!

(lol... j/k)

[jumpman910]

On Thursday, February 25, 2016 at 6:07 PM, TheSpecialJuan said:

I wouldn't be upset, it is what it is.  We're a run first team and all CAP showed me this season was that he couldn't hold onto the ball.  Next year class is deeper but Henry would still be the 2/3 RB taken next year.  And I don't see us being in a draft position to taken any of the studs next year. If DE/DT are off the board and he's BPA on our board you turn it in with the quickness. People will bitch and moan about wasting a first on a RB that won't start year one but this is a proactive move for the future if it were to happen. 

 

 

On Thursday, February 25, 2016 at 6:07 PM, TheSpecialJuan said:

 

[WOW!!]

1 hour ago, top dawg said:

I used to think that same way, but Gettleman has swayed my philosophical penchant on the matter. Drafting for need can get very dicey depending upon the talent level.  If you draft the BPA, then you'll probably be better in the long run, that's why filling holes in free agency is so important.  

In this case, if Henry is deemed the BPA (RB or not), then I will give Dave Gettleman the benefit of the doubt because he has earned that as far as i am concerned.  

What if QB or MLB is the best player available? ?

I think that thinking is just a media driven idea.  BPA to a team at that time is more my thinking.. 

[KillerKat]

Still believe it's stupid to waste a 1st rounder on a RB