Panthers Going After Derrick Henry in the Draft?? Please let It Be So

[tiger7_88]

I would love it if we used our 1st round pick on the Bama center, Ryan Kelley.

My opinion would have to remain neutral on Henry.

[The Huddler]

Its all about scheme with him.. 

 

Are we gunna be a finese passing offense like greenbay??  No. 

 

We ground and pound,  throw williams in the mix with our akready beast inerior..   Cam as a threat throwing and passing..   Dude the guy is going to run full steam ahead into some good looking holes here. He would be a piece to the offense..   Not THE offense.  Throw in KB,  Cam,  our interior Oline,  and Henery,  the physicality of this offense would be unreal. 

 

Never seen before..   

[tiger7_88]

2 minutes ago, The Huddler said:

Its all about scheme with him.. 

 

Are we gunna be a finese passing offense like greenbay??  No. 

 

We ground and pound,  throw williams in the mix with our akready beast inerior..   Cam as a threat throwing and passing..   Dude the guy is going to run full steam ahead into some good looking holes here.

That's the thing isn't it?

In our offense, the "hole" isn't always in the same place even when the same play is called.  The RB has to have the patience and vision to wait for the "hole" and then plant his foot and cut.

Stewart can do that.

Fozzie can do that.

CAP showed the occasional ability to do that when given the rare chance.

Henry never once had to do that with Bama's offense.  He was a cruise missile in college that was pointed in a single direction and went there.  Can Henry plant his foot and cut into the crease that develops as our OL block in the read-option scheme?  That is yet to be determined since he was never asked to do that in college.

[stirs]

3 minutes ago, tiger7_88 said:

That's the thing isn't it?

In our offense, the "hole" isn't always in the same place even when the same play is called.  The RB has to have the patience and vision to wait for the "hole" and then plant his foot and cut.

Stewart can do that.

Fozzie can do that.

CAP showed the occasional ability to do that when given the rare chance.

Henry never once had to do that with Bama's offense.  He was a cruise missile in college that was pointed in a single direction and went there.  Can Henry plant his foot and cut into the crease that develops as our OL block in the read-option scheme?  That is yet to be determined since he was never asked to do that in college.

He showed up as about the 12th best back today as far as times and drills go, yes, he is much bigger than most, but don't think I'd take him in the first.  Might be wrong

[cardiackat88.]

Here's an article about now Henry and Von Miller are almost exactly the same size, speed, strength, and jumping ability:

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000639106/article/derrick-henrys-combine-comparison-is-von-miller

Having this dude and Cam would seriously punish opposing defenses, and it could keep Cam from having to be quite so physical. Not that I have a problem with that, but he can't do that forever. Anyone who says anything about jumping on that Super Bowl fumble is a complete dumbass as well, shows how little they know about Cam.

 

[unicar15]

On February 25, 2016 at 5:39 PM, Panther_Brotherhood said:

A 6'3"RB who runs rather upright and has a high center of gravity is a no go

I know...I mean none of those guys ever turned out to be monsters at RB. 

 

You argue the two best RBs talent wise in NFL history were upright runners. Adrian Peterson and Bo Jackson...

[unicar15]

10 hours ago, tiger7_88 said:

That's the thing isn't it?

In our offense, the "hole" isn't always in the same place even when the same play is called.  The RB has to have the patience and vision to wait for the "hole" and then plant his foot and cut.

Stewart can do that.

Fozzie can do that.

CAP showed the occasional ability to do that when given the rare chance.

Henry never once had to do that with Bama's offense.  He was a cruise missile in college that was pointed in a single direction and went there.  Can Henry plant his foot and cut into the crease that develops as our OL block in the read-option scheme?  That is yet to be determined since he was never asked to do that in college.

Saying a heisman winner has never been asked to plant a cut from the RB position is ridiculous.

We may not draft Henry and I'm not sure we should bc of position value and the number of carries he's had. But the guy is capable of being a difference maker and I'm thinking he'll be in the discussion for OROY next year. He just looks like a kid who gets it and works his butt off. Combine that with his talent and you're going to have something special. I hope there is a great DE or DB at the bottom of the first. Maybe an OL. Henry's problem is his position..not his ability.

[Kevin Greene]

I had enough of RB in the first round with Marty Hurney.

Demarco Murray looked 24 karat behind the Cowboy's oline. 

Looked like shyte in Philly.

Gimme hog mollies and defense.

I'm good with FA supplementing at RB. A vet who can run the ball and also pick up the blitz with regularity.

Protect the Cam.

[top dawg]

7 hours ago, unicar15 said:

I know...I mean none of those guys ever turned out to be monsters at RB. 

 

You argue the two best RBs talent wise in NFL history were upright runners. Adrian Peterson and Bo Jackson...

Eric Dickerson ran upright.

[stan786]

Ap, Bo, and Eric Dickerson all had an explosive first step that Henry could never dream of and were much better at moving laterally. Henry has a fantastic top speed and can really get moving but looks like he's running in mud the first 10 yards. That's where the upright running style will cause him problems and also why he's not a great fit for our offense.

[tiger7_88]

7 hours ago, unicar15 said:

I know...I mean none of those guys ever turned out to be monsters at RB. 

 

You argue the two best RBs talent wise in NFL history were upright runners. Adrian Peterson and Bo Jackson...

lol, you obviously know NOTHING about Bo Jackson.

Bo always ran with a lean-forward and never went upright until he broke into the open field.  That's why so many players had a tough time tackling him, because he was hugely strong and he presented them his shoulder pads when they tried to tackle him.

Checkout the run at 3:02.  If you think that's "running upright" you have a silly notion of the definition of those words.

 

P.S. Derrick Henry runs NOTHING like Bo Jackson.

[Dex]

I'll take Henry in the 5th.

[Woodie]

7 hours ago, tiger7_88 said:

lol, you obviously know NOTHING about Bo Jackson.

Bo always ran with a lean-forward and never went upright until he broke into the open field.  That's why so many players had a tough time tackling him, because he was hugely strong and he presented them his shoulder pads when they tried to tackle him.

Checkout the run at 3:02.  If you think that's "running upright" you have a silly notion of the definition of those words.

 

P.S. Derrick Henry runs NOTHING like Bo Jackson.

Man, it's easy to forget just how explosive Bo was.  He really was the whole package: fast, explosive, powerful, and had great vision.  He'd be a star in any era.  Too bad about the injury, I always hate it when we lose one of the greats before their time.  I'm just glad I was around to see him play and not have to rely on highlights to understand what kind of player he was.

[Woodie]

As for Henry, I have concerns about him as a runner, but my biggest issue is that Alabama used him relentlessly.  Running backs shouldn't get 40+ carries in any game, much less in multiple ones.  I just worry that his shelf life will be less than a loaf of bread.  It's never a good thing when you're already worrying about how much tread is on the tires of a player that hasn't even been drafted yet.