Peyton Manning's Sexual Assault Case

[Pox 08]

Back in my day,   guys were allowed to place their peckers anywhere they wanted on a woman without her consent,  and it was no big deal.      I used to rest my dick on the shoulder of an old lady in church every Sunday.  Did she want it there?  Hell no.   She did understand  that ...as a guy,  I had the right to do what I wanted ,  and place my dick on any woman,  any time I wanted. 

Those were the days.         Now,  fast forward 16 years later and everyone gets so worked up and offended.     These soft skinned individuals that get offended just don't understand how it was back then. 

 

 

[Ricky Spanish]

1 hour ago, RockyTopVol said:

That's not why the Shaun King piece was written. This guy is on a Peyton-tirade, not a University of Tennessee one. 

Fair enough point.

He originally wrote a piece that relates the differences in how Manning and Cam are handled by the media. He contrasts how Cam was getting blown up for not speaking to reporters post Super Bowl, and then mentioned the issue with Manning after someone provided him the information. He then read over the 74 page report, was disgusted by what he read, and then wrote a second article that detailed the incident from Tennessee, summarizing what he read. 

Is it a hit piece? Possibly. But is King justified in writing it? That's what seems to be the big argument. If what was detailed in that 74 page report is even 50% true (It probably isn't 100% true because it was an intentionally one sided and biased recollection of the events that transpired from the woman's POV) then Manning should have been punished in some way shape or form. From all things I've read, he wasn't really punished and tried to sweep it under the rug, then brought it up numerous times after the incident was already settled in such a way that was detrimental to the career of the woman involved. 

I, like many others could forgive Manning for being an entitled douchey 20 year old who thought he could get away with treating someone like poo. But if he tried to cover it all up like the article suggests, then that shows no remorse and shows a lack of character - A Narrative that the media has pushed in favor of Peyton since he entered the league (high character guy). 

But as I understand it, you're more annoyed that it was even brought up to begin with and see it as a pointless hit piece that targets one of your favorite players form your university. I'm sure you liken it to when people bring up the past with Cam and how irrelevant it is to anything he does these days, and you have an argument to a point. However this incident Manning is involved with is a far more damning act than purchasing a stolen laptop in college, and the social temperature regarding issues like this one are far more heated than they once were. People are starting to see a difference in the way that Manning and Cam are portrayed, and many people are reaching the conclusion that it is race related. Couple that with the fact that there IS an ongoing legal matter involving woman's treatment at UT and you have why this piece is relevant and striking so many nerves. It involves a high profile athlete with a "squeaky clean" image, potential racial undertones (both in treatment to Cam and how Manning is alleged to have dragged the woman's name through the mud by insinuating that she slept with black athletes), a lawsuit involving the mistreatment of women, sexual assault, and a potential conspiracy/cover up of the entire thing by both Manning and UT.

I'll be damned if you don't have a perfect storm of a story for people to sink their teeth into. 

[Mother Grabber]

ESPN taking about this a lot today, and covering it solo on OTL. looks like they aren't sweeping it under the rug.

[Jangler]

5 minutes ago, Mother Grabber said:

ESPN taking about this a lot today, and covering it solo on OTL. looks like they are finally looking under the rug.

fify

[RockyTopVol]

27 minutes ago, Cracka McNasty said:

Fair enough point.

He originally wrote a piece that relates the differences in how Manning and Cam are handled by the media. He contrasts how Cam was getting blown up for not speaking to reporters post Super Bowl, and then mentioned the issue with Manning after someone provided him the information. He then read over the 74 page report, was disgusted by what he read, and then wrote a second article that detailed the incident from Tennessee, summarizing what he read. 

Is it a hit piece? Probably. But is King justified in writing it? That's what seems to be the big argument. If what was detailed in that 74 page report is even 50% true (It probably isn't 100% true because it was an intentionally one sided and biased recollection of the events that transpired from the woman's POV) then Manning should have been punished in some way shape or form. From all things I've read, he wasn't really punished and tried to sweep it under the rug, then brought it up numerous times after the incident was already settled in such a way that was detrimental to the carrier of the woman involved. 

I, like many others could forgive Manning for being an entitled douchey 20 year old who thought he could get away with treating someone like poo. But if he tried to cover it all up like the article suggests, then that shows no remorse and shows a lack of character - A Narrative that the media has pushed in favor of Peyton since he entered the league (high character guy). 

But as I understand it, you're more annoyed that it was even brought up to begin with and see it as a pointless hit piece that targets one of your favorite players form your university. I'm sure you liken it to when people bring up the past with Cam and how irrelevant it is to anything he does these days, and you have an argument to a point. However this incident Manning is involved with is a far more damning act than purchasing a stolen laptop in college, and the social temperature regarding issues like this one are far more heated than they once were. People are starting to see a difference in teh way that Manning and Cam are portrayed, and many people are reaching the conclusion that it is race related. Couple that with the fact that there IS an ongoing legal matter involving woman's treatment at UT and you have why this piece is relevant and striking so many nerves. It involves a high profile athlete with a "squeaky clean" image, potential racial undertones (both in treatment to Cam and how Manning is alleged to have dragged the woman's name through the mud by insinuating that she slept with black athletes), a lawsuit involving the mistreatment of women, sexual assault, and a potential conspiracy/cover up of the entire thing by both Manning and UT.

I'll be damned if you don't have a perfect storm of a story for people to sink their teeth into. 

Why did she sign something saying he never touched her in 1996 but then changed her mind in 2003? 

Also, again, for the record, Peyton is not my QB anymore. Cam Newton is. Peyton was my favorite player for 3+ years in the 90s. Right now my guys are Cam and Joshua Dobbs. 

Even if the tea-bagging or mushroom-stamping (whatever you want to call it) occurred, I feel like the debt was paid a long, long time ago. The life-ruining stuff is a bit dramatic. You've all now read the part of the book they cite as how the Mannings threw her under the bus. 

[Ricky Spanish]

58 minutes ago, RockyTopVol said:

Why did she sign something saying he never touched her in 1996 but then changed her mind in 2003? 

Also, again, for the record, Peyton is not my QB anymore. Cam Newton is. Peyton was my favorite player for 3+ years in the 90s. Right now my guys are Cam and Joshua Dobbs. 

Even if the tea-bagging or mushroom-stamping (whatever you want to call it) occurred, I feel like the debt was paid a long, long time ago. The life-ruining stuff is a bit dramatic. You've all now read the part of the book they cite as how the Mannings threw her under the bus. 

There was a gag order on mentioning it ever again. Both parties were supposed to never bring the situation up again because it had been resolved, but since Manning decided to bring it up for the Book, she was entitled to compensation because she wasn't the one bringing up the incident. 

Also where is the the thing she signed in 96 saying he never touched her? Not discrediting you, I just haven't seen it yet. 

[tiger7_88]

10 minutes ago, Cracka McNasty said:

There was a gag order on mentioning it ever again. Both parties were supposed to never bring the situation up again because it had been resolved, but since Manning decided to bring it up for the Book, she was entitled to compensation because she wasn't the one bringing up the incident. 

Also where is the the thing she signed in 96 saying he never touched her? Not discrediting you, I just haven't seen it yet. 

Yeah, I'd like to see a link to that.

And if he says "Well, that's what Manning said in his book" then I'm gonna call bullpoo.

[Daddy_Uncle]

1 hour ago, Mother Grabber said:

ESPN taking about this a lot today, and covering it solo on OTL. looks like they aren't sweeping it under the rug.

Yeah I had espn on for a few minutes today and they were talking about it. They were saying "its no big deal" "it was so long ago" If Cam did something like that they wouldn't stop trying to destroy everything he is. Also sexual assault is never "no big deal" I can't even beleive the garbage that channel spews

[Jangler]

It's really not about Manning, it about the hypocrisy of the NFL and BSPN. Because after the Rice and Hardy under/over reactions, now they want to still cover up and make excuses.

And we all know this would all be 24hr coverage if something came out about Cam in say...2009.

[CarolinaJami']

3 minutes ago, Jangler said:

It's really not about Manning, it about the hypocrisy of the NFL and BSPN. Because after the Rice and Hardy under/over reactions, now they want to still cover up and make excuses.

And we all know this would all be 24hr coverage if something came out about Cam in say...2009.

Yes, this totally, and the fact that the media has known about this and yet still was the face of everything that was right about everybody.

[Mother Grabber]

2 hours ago, Daddy_Uncle said:

Yeah I had espn on for a few minutes today and they were talking about it. They were saying "its no big deal" "it was so long ago" If Cam did something like that they wouldn't stop trying to destroy everything he is. Also sexual assault is never "no big deal" I can't even beleive the garbage that channel spews

I've been home sick all day, watching ESPN. they've been beating him up, as well as beating up the way the media has handled him and his image. they definitely aren't taking the 'so long ago' 'it's big big deal' approach.

many people have also brought up the hypocrisy in covering manning vs cam. all shots are being fired.

[SteveSmitty]

The only part of it that bothers me is the coverage that Cam would receive in this very same type of situation. Cam can't celebrate too much and can't get too down on himself without the media going crazy. They brought up the laptop incident at UF that Cam admittedly views as a learning moment in his life, yet some of these "other" instances get swept under the rug. 

We are all human. We all have likely made a mistake at some point in our lives. The only thing that bothers me is the double standard set by the media. Both Cam and Peyton are both good guys, at least from what I've seen (even with this alleged screw up by Peyton). They should be treated fairly. 

[Jangler]

wow...Wilbon just called Manning Superbowl Hero.

[The Lobo]

44 minutes ago, Mother Grabber said:

I've been home sick all day, watching ESPN. they've been beating him up, as well as beating up the way the media has handled him and his image. they definitely aren't taking the 'so long ago' 'it's big big deal' approach.

many people have also brought up the hypocrisy in covering manning vs cam. all shots are being fired.

About time. I'm not trying to defend or judge manning, that's not my place, I just want The media to lay off Cam. Does that make me weird?