Peyton Manning's Sexual Assault Case

[tiger7_88]

16 hours ago, Sam Mills Fan said:

Wrong again. I said he should have been charged with sexual assault back then, please read. But should that mean he should be branded as a sexual predator in 2016? Nope! People change. Should we think of Cam as a thief because he stole someone's laptop in college? Nope! People change. And before someone accuses me of this next: Am I saying larceny as bad as sexual assault? Nope! That means nothing though and I didn't say that. Unless you commit a first-degree felony or do something that leads to someone's death, we should really let things go. We shouldn't hold something that happened in 1996 against Peyton and we shouldn't hold something that happened in 2008 against Cam.

The part that you conveniently (intentionally) keep ignoring is the part where the book that the Mannings "wrote" that trashes and continues to damage this woman still sits on shelves to be bought (from a store) or checked out (from a library) to this very day.

That's not 20 years ago.

That's NOW.

Now queue up your next convenient excuse.

[Sam Mills Fan]

Just now, tiger7_88 said:

The part that you conveniently (intentionally) keep ignoring is the part where the book that the Mannings "wrote" that trashes and continues to damage this woman still sits on shelves to be bought (from a store) or checked out (from a library) to this very day.

That's not 20 years ago.

That's NOW.

Now queue up your next convenient excuse.

He said, she said. We're never going to know exactly what happened in the aftermath of the incident.

 

Is this really the same Huddle where 70% of posters wanted to drag Nicole Holder's name through the mud and bend over backwards to believe everything Hardy said while calling Holder a gold-digging, psycho whore?

[tiger7_88]

15 hours ago, Sam Mills Fan said:

Oh brother, no person in this country, celebrity or not, rich or poor, is a registered sex offender because they rubbed their dick on someone's face 20 years ago. And for the last f'ing time, I said he probably should have been charged with something assuming that this woman is telling the truth. 

This happened a little over 3 years ago:

http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/2012/10/alabama_fan_agrees_to_11th_hou.html

If the prosecutors hadn't agreed to allow him to plead to a lesser charge of "obscenity", he WOULD have gone to trial on the original charge of sexual battery and, if convicted, would have had to register as a sex offender.  His offense?  Teabagging a guy who was passed out.

[VerticalThreat]

Until the media is the one feeling disrespected don't expect them to cover it. Cam's "actions" are far easier for them to react to than Peyton's. In advertising (which is essentially what they're doing), you want a short headline that grabs your audience. Slapping a photo of Cam and saying "$cam" (I feel dirty even typing that, and it's the first time I've ever done that) is a whole lot easier for them than explaining the ins/outs of what Peyton is shown to have been a part of (although much more damning).

I'm over the media. I don't have to care what they think of my team or my quarterback. As long as he/they continue to perform to the best of their abilities and be examples of great men in the community I have no use for any ancillary comments from outsiders.

[Sam Mills Fan]

1 minute ago, tiger7_88 said:

This happened a little over 3 years ago:

http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/2012/10/alabama_fan_agrees_to_11th_hou.html

If the prosecutors hadn't agreed to allow him to plead to a lesser charge of "obscenity", he WOULD have gone to trial on the original charge of sexual battery and, if convicted, would have had to register as a sex offender.  His offense?  Teabagging a guy who was passed out.

Every case like this starts off with a big hefty charge with a big hefty possible punishment to encourage defendants to take the plea deal so the court can be done with it. 

[tiger7_88]

4 hours ago, AceBoogie said:

Then I question why a star athlete on the football team doesn't have a damn laptop. If my daughter grows up and goes to college and has to buy a stolen laptop while on scholarship then both I and the school have failed her. 

He had a laptop prior to that but it was somehow broken.  Can't remember how... I think he spilled a glass of liquid on it?  So he had to replace the laptop he had been provided by his family when he went to UF and I think he was trying to do it in such a way that his family (i.e. Dad) didn't find out that he had fugged up the one the family bought him.

Just going by my admittedly faulty memory here, but that seems to be what I remember about how it happened.

[tiger7_88]

35 minutes ago, panthernation8923 said:

So mooning someone is sexual assault now i guess (lul millennials)

You keep repeating this like that's what actually happened.

When, of course, that's not what actually happened.

[tiger7_88]

15 minutes ago, Sam Mills Fan said:

Is this really the same Huddle where 70% of posters wanted to drag Nicole Holder's name through the mud and bend over backwards to believe everything Hardy said while calling Holder a gold-digging, psycho whore?

Funny thing though, you won't find *me* on that list of people you describe above.

I challenge you to waste your time trying though.

[tiger7_88]

8 minutes ago, Sam Mills Fan said:

Every case like this starts off with a big hefty charge with a big hefty possible punishment to encourage defendants to take the plea deal so the court can be done with it. 

Some people, however, are of an economic status that they can't afford decent representation.

Or do you think that 100% of sexual assault charges in cases like this get pled down?

[CRA]

50 minutes ago, panthernation8923 said:

So mooning someone is sexual assault now i guess (lul millennials)

and farting on a person is probably attempted murder

 

On a side note, is it weird i find it funny when Im farting on my brothers head, even when im old now?

is that sexual abuse or attempted murder?

Manning wasn't accused of mooning.  Mooning was a fictional story the Manning's created.  Peyton's teammates exposed it as a lie.  They also exposed Manning as a liar when he tried to paint her as a vulgar/bad staff member.  Peyton was exposed as liar under oath too.

Peyton isn't the first media spun "good guy".  Hell, look at Cosby....5 years ago he was the model of what a great and successful man was in the entertainment industry.  Smoke and mirrors....NFL is full of fakes, just like cycling, MLB, NBA, etc proved to be too.

[Sam Mills Fan]

18 minutes ago, tiger7_88 said:

Funny thing though, you won't find *me* on that list of people you describe above.

I challenge you to waste your time trying though.

I can see you're a pretty big fan of Kate Upton. I sure hope you didn't check out her leaked pictures when they came out or else you contributed to her being violated in an arguably worse manner than what happened to Peyton's trainer.

[SZ James (banned)]

53 minutes ago, panthernation8923 said:

On a side note, is it weird i find it funny when Im farting on my brothers head, even when im old now?

is that sexual abuse or attempted murder?

[Sam Mills Fan]

18 minutes ago, tiger7_88 said:

Some people, however, are of an economic status that they can't afford decent representation.

Or do you think that 100% of sexual assault charges in cases like this get pled down?

Yeah, if you have good representation, you manage to get off completely like....Peyton Manning did. (Did I mention that I think he should have been charged?)

 

If you have poor representation, the public defender will automatically just recommend you take the plea bargain regardless of whether or not you did it. That's the way the system works.

 

Nothing serious would have happened to Peyton unless there had been extenuating circumstances (and there weren't). I read an article last night about how a teacher in Tennessee had straight up raped a student and only got probation. Had to register as a sex offender, but served no jail time.

[The NFL Shield At Midfield]

3 hours ago, panthers1234 said:

I like Cam as much as the next person but he needs some accountability for his actions.

yeah i think something like getting arrested then getting kicked off a national title contending football team and having to work his way back up to a major program from a non-NCAA junior college would have done cam well.