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Let's talk about Ted Ginn Jr.


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8 minutes ago, PantherBoy95 said:

As long as he stops running out of bounds untouched I love him on the roster. Greatly exceeded expectations.

Ted Ginn isn't going to truck anybody. Why does it matter if he goes out of bounds? Not everybody can be Smitty.

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1 hour ago, Bartin said:

Where exactly do you think the money to sign Alshon Jeffrey is going to come from? You want to let Norman go? Not sign one of Short or Star? Cut Kalil? Fill out the roster with UDFAs? Jeffrey is going to get $14M/year. That ain't in the budget,

Not to mention that Chicago will tag him before letting him hit free agency.

We have a lot of money this year if we cut CJ and Allen, which I fully expect us too.

Norman is going to get franchise-tagged apparently.

Short and Star are both signed, as is Kalil, so not sure where you're getting your info from. We have cash this year, finally. Decide whether OT or WR or DE is a better bet to drop to us in the draft and get some people in free agency to fill the other areas.

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2 hours ago, SportsCrazie4172 said:

We went to the Superbowl with Ginn, Funchess, Olsen and Brown..and lost ..

Add in Benjamin we win it..

And Ginn had a drop that led to an INT and Brown is like a scat back...can't use him all the time and he gets nicked up and will get even more nicked up if he actually plays with an ounce of physicality(which he doesn't he runs out of bounds just like Ginn).

KB is no guarantee as much as we all are just ignoring that even though I fully expect him to come back and dominate.

Ginn and Brown...especially Brown are easily replaceable at WR and I have no doubt Gettleman will be looking at some WRs to bring in. Now's the time to surround our franchise QB with as much talent as possible....SB losing teams don't usually sit back and rest on what LOST them the SB...Gettleman thankfully is too smart for that.

 

 

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19 minutes ago, Thanatos said:

We have a lot of money this year if we cut CJ and Allen, which I fully expect us too.

Norman is going to get franchise-tagged apparently.

Short and Star are both signed, as is Kalil, so not sure where you're getting your info from. We have cash this year, finally. Decide whether OT or WR or DE is a better bet to drop to us in the draft and get some people in free agency to fill the other areas.

Kawann is going into the final year of his deal. Signing Alshon at $14M/year for 5 years means we can't extend Short this season and we have to go into next offseason either being forced to tag him or let him test free agency. We can't tag both Norman and Short in 2017 so you really risk losing one of them or overpaying. KK is looking at a $15M+/year deal based on his position and production. Kalil is also going into the last year of his deal so he'll need a new one for at least $7M/year. Star is going to be on the 5th year option in 2017 to the tune of $10M. All the while Jeffrey is probably counting $13M on the cap in 2017.

Yes we could technically sign Jeffrey but to do so we are venturing into Hurneynomics territory and it would be nearly impossible to sign any veteran help for the defense to replace the DE's we would be losing or another safety or CB for this year for anything but minimum deals. Any injury could screw us because we would be forced to fill out depth with a bunch of cast off turds rather than the quality veteran depth Gettleman has been bringing in. We'd also be forced to draft for need and hoping those guys produce rather than setting ourselves up to go BPA .

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Ginn kind of reminds me of Robert Meacham.  he was good when he was with the Saints but not so good anywhere else.  Some guys just fit like that.

Next year, he's likely the third option behind Benjamin and Funchess, which I'd imagine is the role they envisioned him having this past season before injuries necessitated a change of plans.

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2 hours ago, KSpan said:

Ted Ginn isn't going to truck anybody. Why does it matter if he goes out of bounds? Not everybody can be Smitty.

Everyone can put forth effort, football is not only about making the easy play taking what's given...sometimes it about taking what others can not see is possible, out willing the other man, what your mind thinks is possible along with your body.

That will summarize every rebuttal that I'll possibly have.

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Ginn is a talented guy that knows our system. If he had not gone for the bigger payday in Arizona, he would have likely been here for the duration. I really don't see him getting cut. If he is on the chopping block, then I figure Brown would be as well. Ginn may be more vital to our offense (plus he plays special teams).

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