NFL Turning Point: The Clete Blakeman Effect

[truthjuice]

1 hour ago, CPantherKing said:

Here are the missed/bad calls by the officiating. Long post, but I know some of you were wondering just how many missed/bad calls there were and who they were on. Leaving out PI and holding as they are judgement calls. You will notice the huge disparity between the teams.

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1

7:23

1

10

CAR 15

Cam Newton pass incomplete deep middle intended for Jerricho Cotchery (defended by Darian Stewart). CAR challenged the incomplete pass ruling, and the play was upheld.

3

0

This should have been ruled a catch since none of the officials could see the ball hit the ground. Replay would have had to prove it was incomplete. Clete Blakeman was responsible for getting this right as the main official with the call was confused and the official calling it incomplete clear across the field could not see through the body of Cotchery.

1

6:34

3

10

CAR 15

Cam Newton sacked by Von Miller for -11 yards. Cam Newton fumbles (forced by Von Miller), recovered by Malik Jackson at CAR--1, touchdown

9

0

Von Miller led with hands to the Cam Newton's face in the pocket before going to strip the ball. This should have been a 15 yard personal foul penalty for a blow to the QBs head.

1

1:27

4

12

DEN 11

Britton Colquitt punts 47 yards, returned by Ted Ginn for -2 yards (tackle by Corey Nelson). Penalty on Teddy Williams: Illegal Block Above the Waist, 10 yards

10

0

This was not a block in the back. Ginn had fielded the punt at the 42 and the defender dove to try to trip Ginn up with his arm. The defender dives at the 42. The official short arms the flag to the 37 yard line as the spot of the foul. The penalty is 10 yards from the spot of the foul which places the Panthers at their own 27. Ginn ended up at the 41 on the tackle. The officials took 14 yards away from the Panthers when a call should have never been made and they made a bad spot.

2

11:25

1

10

DEN 20

Peyton Manning pass incomplete intended for Virgil Green. CAR challenged the incomplete pass ruling, and the play was overturned. Peyton Manning sacked byKony Ealy for -7 yards

10

7

Peyton should not have been allowed to continue the play and the refs allowed it. This was a major mistake as it used up the Panthers final challenge.

2

9:29

4

12

CAR 47

Brad Nortman punts 28 yards, returned by Jordan Norwood for 61 yards (tackle byMario Addison)

10

7

Norwood turns his back toward the official and walks to the sideline shielding his outside arm from view of the official in the end zone while he waits for the punt. After the punt is in the air, Norwood twists his body to square out with the Punt. While running forward he flails his left arm out to the side raising it to the level of his right shoulder. This is an illegal fair catch signal. This was seen by the Panthers gunners and they were confused. The officials missed the call.

2

6:28

2

10

DEN 40

C.J. Anderson right guard for 34 yards (tackle by Cortland Finnegan)

13

7

Anderson latches onto and pulls down on Finnegan's facemask to keep him from making the tackle. This allows for more yardage as Andeson runs out of bounds. The official had a clear line of sight on the hand in the facemask and the jerk of the head.

2

4:23

1

10

CAR 39

Cam Newton pass incomplete short right intended for Greg Olsen

13

7

Sylvester Williams runs around Norwell after Cam had thrown the ball and delivers a late hit and a blow to Cam Newton's head with the hand sending him to the ground with Malik Jackson pulling Cam to the ground. Cam had taken 3 to 4 casual steps after he had thrown the ball. This happens in front of Clete Blakeman.

2

1:26

2

7

CAR 22

Penalty on Michael Oher: False Start, 5 yards (no play)

13

7

0.07

-0.72

66.3

Von Miller simulates the snap count. Cam was using a delayed cadence. You can see the OTs looking down the line for the snap of the ball, and then Miller adds another 'hut' following Cam's. You can also see Miller's head bob forward when he does this pulling the OTs on both sides. Oher and Remmers both look at the official and plead their case, but the official did not notice it.

2

0:11

2

10

DEN 45

Cam Newton sacked by DeMarcus Ware for -10 yards

13

7

Demarcus Ware stomps on Cam Newton's knee after the sack by rearing his leg back and driving his knee into the side of Cam's knee.

3

13:41

1

10

DEN 35

Cam Newton pass incomplete

13

7

Demarcus Ware leg whips the back of Cam Newton's legs to take him down after Cam throws the ball away. This should be a personal foul. Clete Blakeman is 5 yards away from the play and casually walks by without even verbally warning Ware.

3

13:34

2

10

DEN 35

Fozzy Whittaker right tackle for 10 yards (tackle by Chris Harris and Brandon Marshall). Penalty on Trai Turner: Unnecessary Roughness, 15 yards

13

7

Trai Turner was blocking his man on the play. Turner's defender was on the ground as the whistle blew. The officials threw the flag and penalized the Panthers for hitting a player after the whistle. You can pause the video when the whistle blows and Trai is not engaged with any defender.

3

11:00

3

11

DEN 26

Cam Newton pass incomplete short right intended for Greg Olsen

13

7

Philly Brown turns Roby and beats him. Roby reaches out to pull Brown back to him. The official throws a flag for defensive holding. Clete Blakeman speaks with him and overrules him due to being away from the play. They pick up the flag. This call is understandable, but it favors the Broncos and highlights the penalties against the Panthers Clete Blakeman refused to overturn eventhough he knew what the correct call was suppose to be.

3

10:54

4

11

DEN 26

Graham Gano 44 yard field goal no good

13

7

Offsides on Talib not called. Official is adamant he was not offsides. Clete Blakeman acknowledges to Norman he saw the offsides but it is not his responsibility to call the penalty.

3

5:57

2

10

DEN 28

Cam Newton pass incomplete deep middle intended for Ted Ginn is intercepted byT.J. Ward at DEN-10 and returned for 4 yards. T.J. Ward fumbles (forced by Mike Tolbert), recovered by Danny Trevathan at DEN-7

16

7

On the fumble by Ward, both Trevathan and Ginn have dual possession of the ball. Trevathan begins to forcibly slam his knee into Ginn's side and then rears his leg back again to slam his knee into the side of Ginn's head to get him to release the ball. This should have been a personal foul penalty. Multiple officials stood around them and let Trevathan knee Ginn in the head. Not even a warning to Trevathan for an offense that should get him suspended. This was worse than the act by Talib on Brown.

4

10:55

3

4

DEN 16

Penalty on Michael Oher: False Start, 5 yards (no play)

16

7

The Broncos simulate the snap again on a delayed cadence by Cam. It catches both OTs again. Brandon Marshall simulates the snap. Michael Oher protests again, but the refs claim it did not happen.

4

8:21

2

9

CAR 29

Penalty on Mike Remmers: False Start, 5 yards (no play)

16

10

The Broncos simulate the snap again on a delayed cadence. This time Trevathen simulates the snap.

4

4:16

3

9

CAR 25

Cam Newton sacked by Von Miller for -9 yards. Cam Newton fumbles (forced by Von Miller), recovered by T.J. Ward at CAR-9 and returned for 5 yards (tackle by Mike Remmers)

16

10

Illegal batting of the ball by Von Miller in front of Clete Blakeman. Should be 1st and 10 at the 35 for the Panthers.

4

3:17

3

4

CAR 4

Peyton Manning pass incomplete short right intended for Demaryius Thomas. Penalty on Josh Norman: Defensive Holding, 2 yards (no play)

This was not a holding penalty on Norman and Thomas slipped after pulling on Norman to get around him. The ball was also uncatchable. This would have been a FG attempt, but the officials gave the Broncos a fresh set of downs. Considering all the physical PI the Broncos got away with and I did not include as bad calls, this is a ridiculous call that fails to carry the same standard of officiating they have been using throughout the game.

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The officiating had 18 bad or missed calls in the game. 17 went against the Panthers and 1 went in favor of the Broncos. There were no bad or missed calls that went against the Broncos all game. They picked up the flag on what would have been the one bad call on the Broncos. I did not include the judgement calls of holding and pass interference. The one PI I listed was to illustrate the lack of consistency in officiating between the two teams.

Feel free to check out the plays as the times are listed.

The fix. This makes me mad because no matter what, it was a Broncos win going in. We could've played a perfect game and probably would've lost. The menta defeat had set in by 4th quarter. They couldn't beat Cam unless they "beat" Cam. That was Wades strategy going in and nobody can tell me any different. They needed his legs out from under him. This loss probably hurts more because once broken down, it wasn't a fair loss. And NOBODY is going to talk about it. They're all gonna harp over Cam not risking a great knee injury over a ball that was illegally batted or a press conference in which he walked out of. 

[pstall]

Look at how Clete's leg was contorted.

[Zaximus]

But you know.... nothing going on here that is sketchy or anything.  

[SOJA]

2 hours ago, CPantherKing said:

Here are the missed/bad calls by the officiating. Long post, but I know some of you were wondering just how many missed/bad calls there were and who they were on. Leaving out PI and holding as they are judgement calls. You will notice the huge disparity between the teams.

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1

7:23

1

10

CAR 15

Cam Newton pass incomplete deep middle intended for Jerricho Cotchery (defended by Darian Stewart). CAR challenged the incomplete pass ruling, and the play was upheld.

3

0

This should have been ruled a catch since none of the officials could see the ball hit the ground. Replay would have had to prove it was incomplete. Clete Blakeman was responsible for getting this right as the main official with the call was confused and the official calling it incomplete clear across the field could not see through the body of Cotchery.

1

6:34

3

10

CAR 15

Cam Newton sacked by Von Miller for -11 yards. Cam Newton fumbles (forced by Von Miller), recovered by Malik Jackson at CAR--1, touchdown

9

0

Von Miller led with hands to the Cam Newton's face in the pocket before going to strip the ball. This should have been a 15 yard personal foul penalty for a blow to the QBs head.

1

1:27

4

12

DEN 11

Britton Colquitt punts 47 yards, returned by Ted Ginn for -2 yards (tackle by Corey Nelson). Penalty on Teddy Williams: Illegal Block Above the Waist, 10 yards

10

0

This was not a block in the back. Ginn had fielded the punt at the 42 and the defender dove to try to trip Ginn up with his arm. The defender dives at the 42. The official short arms the flag to the 37 yard line as the spot of the foul. The penalty is 10 yards from the spot of the foul which places the Panthers at their own 27. Ginn ended up at the 41 on the tackle. The officials took 14 yards away from the Panthers when a call should have never been made and they made a bad spot.

2

11:25

1

10

DEN 20

Peyton Manning pass incomplete intended for Virgil Green. CAR challenged the incomplete pass ruling, and the play was overturned. Peyton Manning sacked byKony Ealy for -7 yards

10

7

Peyton should not have been allowed to continue the play and the refs allowed it. This was a major mistake as it used up the Panthers final challenge.

2

9:29

4

12

CAR 47

Brad Nortman punts 28 yards, returned by Jordan Norwood for 61 yards (tackle byMario Addison)

10

7

Norwood turns his back toward the official and walks to the sideline shielding his outside arm from view of the official in the end zone while he waits for the punt. After the punt is in the air, Norwood twists his body to square out with the Punt. While running forward he flails his left arm out to the side raising it to the level of his right shoulder. This is an illegal fair catch signal. This was seen by the Panthers gunners and they were confused. The officials missed the call.

2

6:28

2

10

DEN 40

C.J. Anderson right guard for 34 yards (tackle by Cortland Finnegan)

13

7

Anderson latches onto and pulls down on Finnegan's facemask to keep him from making the tackle. This allows for more yardage as Andeson runs out of bounds. The official had a clear line of sight on the hand in the facemask and the jerk of the head.

2

4:23

1

10

CAR 39

Cam Newton pass incomplete short right intended for Greg Olsen

13

7

Sylvester Williams runs around Norwell after Cam had thrown the ball and delivers a late hit and a blow to Cam Newton's head with the hand sending him to the ground with Malik Jackson pulling Cam to the ground. Cam had taken 3 to 4 casual steps after he had thrown the ball. This happens in front of Clete Blakeman.

2

1:26

2

7

CAR 22

Penalty on Michael Oher: False Start, 5 yards (no play)

13

7

0.07

-0.72

66.3

Von Miller simulates the snap count. Cam was using a delayed cadence. You can see the OTs looking down the line for the snap of the ball, and then Miller adds another 'hut' following Cam's. You can also see Miller's head bob forward when he does this pulling the OTs on both sides. Oher and Remmers both look at the official and plead their case, but the official did not notice it.

2

0:11

2

10

DEN 45

Cam Newton sacked by DeMarcus Ware for -10 yards

13

7

Demarcus Ware stomps on Cam Newton's knee after the sack by rearing his leg back and driving his knee into the side of Cam's knee.

3

13:41

1

10

DEN 35

Cam Newton pass incomplete

13

7

Demarcus Ware leg whips the back of Cam Newton's legs to take him down after Cam throws the ball away. This should be a personal foul. Clete Blakeman is 5 yards away from the play and casually walks by without even verbally warning Ware.

3

13:34

2

10

DEN 35

Fozzy Whittaker right tackle for 10 yards (tackle by Chris Harris and Brandon Marshall). Penalty on Trai Turner: Unnecessary Roughness, 15 yards

13

7

Trai Turner was blocking his man on the play. Turner's defender was on the ground as the whistle blew. The officials threw the flag and penalized the Panthers for hitting a player after the whistle. You can pause the video when the whistle blows and Trai is not engaged with any defender.

3

11:00

3

11

DEN 26

Cam Newton pass incomplete short right intended for Greg Olsen

13

7

Philly Brown turns Roby and beats him. Roby reaches out to pull Brown back to him. The official throws a flag for defensive holding. Clete Blakeman speaks with him and overrules him due to being away from the play. They pick up the flag. This call is understandable, but it favors the Broncos and highlights the penalties against the Panthers Clete Blakeman refused to overturn eventhough he knew what the correct call was suppose to be.

3

10:54

4

11

DEN 26

Graham Gano 44 yard field goal no good

13

7

Offsides on Talib not called. Official is adamant he was not offsides. Clete Blakeman acknowledges to Norman he saw the offsides but it is not his responsibility to call the penalty.

3

5:57

2

10

DEN 28

Cam Newton pass incomplete deep middle intended for Ted Ginn is intercepted byT.J. Ward at DEN-10 and returned for 4 yards. T.J. Ward fumbles (forced by Mike Tolbert), recovered by Danny Trevathan at DEN-7

16

7

On the fumble by Ward, both Trevathan and Ginn have dual possession of the ball. Trevathan begins to forcibly slam his knee into Ginn's side and then rears his leg back again to slam his knee into the side of Ginn's head to get him to release the ball. This should have been a personal foul penalty. Multiple officials stood around them and let Trevathan knee Ginn in the head. Not even a warning to Trevathan for an offense that should get him suspended. This was worse than the act by Talib on Brown.

4

10:55

3

4

DEN 16

Penalty on Michael Oher: False Start, 5 yards (no play)

16

7

The Broncos simulate the snap again on a delayed cadence by Cam. It catches both OTs again. Brandon Marshall simulates the snap. Michael Oher protests again, but the refs claim it did not happen.

4

8:21

2

9

CAR 29

Penalty on Mike Remmers: False Start, 5 yards (no play)

16

10

The Broncos simulate the snap again on a delayed cadence. This time Trevathen simulates the snap.

4

4:16

3

9

CAR 25

Cam Newton sacked by Von Miller for -9 yards. Cam Newton fumbles (forced by Von Miller), recovered by T.J. Ward at CAR-9 and returned for 5 yards (tackle by Mike Remmers)

16

10

Illegal batting of the ball by Von Miller in front of Clete Blakeman. Should be 1st and 10 at the 35 for the Panthers.

4

3:17

3

4

CAR 4

Peyton Manning pass incomplete short right intended for Demaryius Thomas. Penalty on Josh Norman: Defensive Holding, 2 yards (no play)

This was not a holding penalty on Norman and Thomas slipped after pulling on Norman to get around him. The ball was also uncatchable. This would have been a FG attempt, but the officials gave the Broncos a fresh set of downs. Considering all the physical PI the Broncos got away with and I did not include as bad calls, this is a ridiculous call that fails to carry the same standard of officiating they have been using throughout the game.

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The officiating had 18 bad or missed calls in the game. 17 went against the Panthers and 1 went in favor of the Broncos. There were no bad or missed calls that went against the Broncos all game. They picked up the flag on what would have been the one bad call on the Broncos. I did not include the judgement calls of holding and pass interference. The one PI I listed was to illustrate the lack of consistency in officiating between the two teams.

Feel free to check out the plays as the times are listed.

dude this could be it's own thread- i.e. the OP in a megathread about people thinking the refs dicked us over 

[Don137]

No doubt the Panthers made mistakes and it cost them dearly. I will blame their mistakes more than the officials. If they didnt make those mistakes the Panthers definitely would have won. However, I also truly feel if the officials were not so biased and called a fair game the Panthers would have won the game.

We outgained them in every statistical category offensively yet. Barely over 100 yards passing and under 100 rushing. Whose defense was better if officials would have been fair? Amazing Broncos had half the penalties than Panthers. Broncos didn't have to challenge any official call yet Panthers had to use both challenges early in game due to bad officiating. One that everyone in America doesn't understand unless your a Broncos fan or work for NFL how it was not reversed. Listened to Mike and Mike yesterday and they had TO and Chad Johnson on. All four couldn't believe the incomplete catch was not overruled.

 

[rippadonn]

Oh come on guys! There's no such thing as conspiracies to fix games. I'm sooo tired of you tin foil hat wearing, tinderbox posting wackos. Derp derp

[PanthersBigD]

We have corruption in politics, finance, medicine, education...why is it so hard for some on this board to believe that there could be corruption in the biggest game of the most lucrative sport in the United States? 

 

[Zaximus]

2 minutes ago, PanthersBigD said:

We have corruption in politics, finance, medicine, education...why is it so hard for some on this board to believe that there could be corruption in the biggest game of the most lucrative sport in the United States? 

 

I'm starting to think it's not a matter of IF but a matter of they don't WANT to believe that their love of the game could be tainted.  Basically denial.  

[PanthersBigD]

Just now, Zaximus said:

I'm starting to think it's not a matter of IF but a matter of they don't WANT to believe that their love of the game could be tainted.  Basically denial.  

It's a beautiful set up the NFL has. If a team wins due to skewed officiating, they happily accept the W and call everyone else 'poor sports.' If you're not a fan of the losing team, you may notice the issue,  but it doesn't really affect your team, so you let it go. If you're a fan of the losing team, whatever you say will be shouted down as being a 'sore loser' and eventually you'll just let it go as 'part of the game.' Nothing in this world is immune from corruption. It's basically the same scam our government has pulled on us, but instead of political factions it's sports teams. 

[rayzor]

7 minutes ago, rippadonn said:

Oh come on guys! There's no such thing as conspiracies to fix games. I'm sooo tired of you tin foil hat wearing, tinderbox posting wackos. Derp derp

i don't think there was a conspiracy, but i absolutely believe that a reffing crew's bias in favor of the broncos absolutely influenced the way they called the game. they let obvious things slide if it favored the broncos and when in doubt, called in favor of the broncos. that is obvious.

the sad thing is, there's not a thing that can be done about it. no accountability. nothing. they screwed us. whether it was intentional or not, i don't know and don't really care. they screwed us out of a lombardi that we deserved and would have won had the refs actually called the game even close to fairly.

but people could come out with proof it was intentional and it still wouldn't matter. the lombardi would still be in denver and that's a travesty. does that mean that we should just let it go? absolutely not. i don't care if people consider us bitter cry babies. it was wrong and that reffing crew and the league that allowed a reffing crew  with that relationship with a team should be called on it.

[Zaximus]

2 minutes ago, rayzor said:

i don't think there was a conspiracy, but i absolutely believe that a reffing crew's bias in favor of the broncos absolutely influenced the way they called the game. they let obvious things slide if it favored the broncos and when in doubt, called in favor of the broncos. that is obvious.

the sad thing is, there's not a thing that can be done about it. no accountability. nothing. they screwed us. whether it was intentional or not, i don't know and don't really care. they screwed us out of a lombardi that we deserved and would have won had the refs actually called the game even close to fairly.

but people could come out with proof it was intentional and it still wouldn't matter. the lombardi would still be in denver and that's a travesty. does that mean that we should just let it go? absolutely not. i don't care if people consider us bitter cry babies. it was wrong and that reffing crew and the league that allowed a reffing crew  with that relationship with a team should be called on it.

And next year, the same refs will be out there, because you are right, no accountability for bad refs.  They'll probably make the rule book even harder to understand too.   Why wouldn't they get better refs and let the bad ones go?  What reason would they have to even have people wondering about the credibility of the NFL?   There's only one reason really.  

[rippadonn]

1 minute ago, rayzor said:

i don't think there was a conspiracy, but i absolutely believe that a reffing crew's bias in favor of the broncos absolutely influenced the way they called the game. they let obvious things slide if it favored the broncos and when in doubt, called in favor of the broncos. that is obvious.

the sad thing is, there's not a thing that can be done about it. no accountability. nothing. they screwed us. whether it was intentional or not, i don't know and don't really care. they screwed us out of a lombardi that we deserved and would have won had the refs actually called the game even close to fairly.

but people could come out with proof it was intentional and it still wouldn't matter. the lombardi would still be in denver and that's a travesty. does that mean that we should just let it go? absolutely not. i don't care if people consider us bitter cry babies. it was wrong and that reffing crew and the league that allowed a reffing crew  with that relationship with a team should be called on it.

This OP should be pinned. Players and coaches can't say it but we can. If the NFL receives a million priority mail envelopes with this same evidence questioning their integrity this thread is not just complaining and sore losing

[rayzor]

i do know that when you speak out against refs, the ref union takes it personally and will all turn against you. we saw that this year quite a lot.

[Silent Majority]

Lol@ the contingent of "Panthers fans", who post about tin foil hats and conspiracies. Don't believe your lying eyes guys, believe the status quo and the legion of hangers-on, who earn a living being NFL fluffers.

Obviously, I live in Jersey. I have had 3 people on different occasions come up to me @ the gym and tell me that, that game did not feel right and they believed the fix was in. 2 eagles fans and a Seahawks fan. We aren't whiny fans, other people saw that bullpoo too.